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    Suverans2 3 years 9 weeks ago Page Bob Wallace
    Congratulations, ElasahBazlith, you went 'trolling' and caught a sucker...me. LOL
  • Suverans2's picture
    Suverans2 3 years 9 weeks ago Page Bob Wallace
    Guess again, Bob. self noun▸who you are and what you think and feel, especially the conscious feeling of being separate and different from other people ~ Macmillan Dictionary Too bad "collectivists" waste their time on libertarian websites.
  • Suverans2's picture
    Suverans2 3 years 9 weeks ago Page Bob Wallace
    @ ElasahBazlith, That was in response to this, "The psychiatric definition of narcissism is..." Bob Wallace did not say, "The witch doctor definition of narcissism is..."
  • Robert Wallace's picture
    Robert Wallace 3 years 9 weeks ago Page Bob Wallace
    The opposite of indivualism is not collectivism. That's a straw man. True opposites are freedom versus the State, the Political Means versus the Economic Means. No one is "an individual." Our "self" is created by our relationships with other people. You can't be a father without a child, a spouse without a husband of wife, etc. No one is "independent," because we are involved in an infinite web of relationships with other people, the environmetnt, etc. Are of us are part of a "collective." Rand is a complete fraud, a third-rate philosoper, a philodoxer. Too bad "libertarians" waste their time with nonsense. I've yet to meet one who understood even the basics of Object Relations Theory, which inn one form or other, runs backs thousands of years.
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    ElasahBazlith 3 years 9 weeks ago Page Bob Wallace
    The aspector , jawn, that is right, change subject. Throw a cat in the meal? Nah I would rather wait to see which way the cat jumps. And you? FUNNY Enough to make a cat laugh? STOP STOP To early for the forfex. Forhend the forinsecal .
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    ElasahBazlith 3 years 9 weeks ago Page Bob Wallace
    Diagnostic criteria for 301.81 Narcissistic Personality Disorder See modern mainstream media operations manual. When it comes to a choice between a PSYCHIATRIC ASSOCIATION GANG MEMBER or a witch doctor, I would choose the witch doctor. At least you could get the chicken back for YOUR dinner. Why grant plenipotentiary license? To make prize of?
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    Tony Pivetta 3 years 9 weeks ago Page Carrie Burdzinski
    Rita's right about the alienation. But the question remains: why do parents take the government's word about anything? Hasn't the State's well-documented legacy of lies, enslavement, conscription, extortion, confiscation, counterfeiting, kidnapping, mayhem, mass murder and assorted villainies taught them anything? I am reminded of a clip of dialogue from the movie *Kafka*: Gabriela: And you believe everything the authorities tell you? Franz Kafka: Well, I have no reason to doubt. Gabriela: They’re authorities! That’s reason enough. My parents grew up in Belgium and Italy, coming to North America as young adults. As working-class ethnics, they looked to the government to create jobs and protect them from exploitation from "the rich," so I can't say I had a libertarian upbringing. But food is central to social and family life among Italians. They certainly wouldn't have put any stock in diktats issuing from their presumed betters concerning what they should or should not put on the dinner table. They trusted their own judgment too much for that. Despite their socialist leanings, moreover, they maintained a healthy skepticism about "the authorities." It's a wonder otherwise intelligent human beings don't. My compliments to Prof. Burdzinski on a concise, persuasive and finely-crafted column.
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    Suverans2 3 years 9 weeks ago Web link Sharon Secor
    G'day rita, As you no doubt noticed, those were not my words, I was quoting Bouvier's 1856 Law Dictionary. Of course, you are correct, things have evidently changed since that writing and several states now bar "citizen felons" from voting, even after they have completed any custodial sentence; this is because political rights can be taken by "due process of law", and "due process of law" is whatever the corporation you voluntarily choose to be a member of says it is. But the reason you are "still...subject (voluntarily) to the laws made by those elected" is because you voluntarily choose to retain your "membership" in a STATE and/or in the UNITED STATES, which you made manifest when you unequivocally stated, "...something like 12% of the "citizens" do NOT have the right to vote. I'm one of them...". "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude...shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction." ~ XIII Amendment to the U.S. Constitution Most individuals "voluntarily choose to retain [their] membership in a STATE and/or in the UNITED STATES, because they believe that life outside of the system would not be "easy", or as "lucrative" ["for filthy lucre’s sake"], as inside the system. They are probably right on both counts. "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom..."; well, you know the rest.
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    Suverans2 3 years 9 weeks ago Page Bob Wallace
    G'day Bob Wallace, You apparently didn't see my question. Individualism & Ender = Endervidualism Does this author have a problem with, and wish to end, individualism? The opposite of individualism is collectivism. And, if you are a collectivist, i.e. "a supporter of collectivism", it would certainly explain your apparent hatred of Ayn Rand and/or her writings. "Individual rights are not subject to a public vote; a majority has no right to vote away the rights of a minority; the political function of rights is precisely to protect minorities from oppression by majorities (and the smallest minority on earth is the individual)." ~ Ayn Rand Strange, I do not see anything even vaguely resembling, “splitting things into airtight compartments of all-good and all-bad, pure good and pure evil,” in the diagnostic criteria for “narcissistic personality disorder” listed below. Diagnostic criteria for 301.81 Narcissistic Personality Disorder A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following: (1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements) (2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love (3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions) (4) requires excessive admiration (5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations (6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends (7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others (8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her (9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes Reprinted with permission from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, fourth Edition. Copyright 1994 American Psychiatric Association http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/narcissisticpd.htm
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    RoyceChristian 3 years 9 weeks ago
    On To Tripoli!
    Web link Westernerd
    "Endless war" is unlikely. Gaddaffi's forces are finite and his people hate him. He has lost control of Misurata and the border regions close to Tripoli. Every time his forces leave cover to travel to head towards a target or get supplies, they are being attacked from the air or from the opposition on the ground. His allies have abandoned him, his ministers and diplomats have defect and many in the military are defecting every day. Not to mention that the US hasn't played a huge role in this conflict and has largely left Leadership to NATO and the European countries.
  • rita's picture
    rita 3 years 10 weeks ago Web link Sharon Secor
    I don't know where you live, Suverans, but in my neck of the woods, something like 12% of the "citizens" do NOT have the right to vote. I'm one of them, but still I'm subject (involuntarily) to the laws made by those elected. One of my ancestors came to America as an indentured servant (voluntary servitude). When the debt was paid, she was free. I, on trhe other hand, will never be.
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    rita 3 years 10 weeks ago Web link Westernerd
    The drug war will never end because people will always want drugs, and as long as there's a demand there will be a supply. But don't fool yourself that's it's not "winnable." Every time you have to stand in line to buy cold medicine, the masters win. Every time you or your children are random drug-tested, at work or at school, the masters win. As Mexico melts down and over 2 million Americans languish in cages, the masters win. Because prohibition is, and always has been, a tool of oppression. And its spin-off war has never been anything but an excuse to ramp up the fear and the violence, increasing the oppression and furthering the careers of lawmakers and law enforcers. At the small price of human life. They win.
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    Michael Kleen 3 years 10 weeks ago Page Michael Kleen
    I recently discovered "The Nietzsche Reader" (ed. Keith Ansell Pearson) - it gathers together a lot of the best and most recent translations of his work, including obscure pieces and earlier writings like "The Greek State." I highly recommend it.
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    Robert Wallace 3 years 10 weeks ago Page Bob Wallace
    "Narcissism is egoism" The psychiatric definition of narcissism is splitting things into airtight compartments of all-good and all-bad, pure good and pure evil. It doesn't matter if it's Narcissistic Personality Disorder, Borderline Personality Disorder, or Sociopathic/Psychopathic Personality Disorder. All you have to do, on a mass scale, if look at Communism, Nazism, or any genocidal monotheistic religions --Judaism, Christianity, Islam. Where do you think the idea of an all-good God and an all-bad Devil came from? It also applies to Rand's religion and her close-minded fanatical followers.
  • Lawrence M. Ludlow's picture
    Lawrence M. Ludlow 3 years 10 weeks ago Page Michael Kleen
    Glen, thanks for these wonderful quotes and the suggested translation. Now I can begin -- slowly -- to possibly understand this rather complex source!
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    SlipperyPencil 3 years 10 weeks ago Page Carrie Burdzinski
    Even worse than the commercials is this study where pregnant women will be given drugs to prevent obese babies, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8505630/Babies-given-anti-o...
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    KenK 3 years 10 weeks ago
    The Proletarian Mind
    Web link Michael Kleen
    A wonderful piece explaining how wage slavery kills the human spirit. Read it.
  • Suverans2's picture
    Suverans2 3 years 10 weeks ago Web link Sharon Secor
    "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude...shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction." ~ XIII Amendment to the U.S. Constitution Voluntary servitude, on the other hand, is not only legal, but also lawful. Every citizen [one who has voluntarily enslaved himself] has the right of voting for public officers, and of being elected; these are the political rights which the humblest citizen possesses. ~ Bouvier's Law Dictionary, 1856 Edition [Bracketed information and emphasis added]
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    Suverans2 3 years 10 weeks ago Page Bob Wallace
    Narcissism is egoism, 1a : a doctrine that individual self-interest is the actual motive of all conscious action b : a doctrine that individual self-interest is the valid end of all actions 2 : excessive concern for oneself with or without exaggerated feelings of self-importance, or egocentrism, thinking only of oneself, without regard for the feelings or desires of others ; self-centered, neither of which, in my opinion, has anything at all to do with "splitting things into...pure good and pure evil". Individualism & Ender = Endervidualism Does this author have a problem with, and wish to end, individualism? The opposite of individualism is collectivism.
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    Glen Allport 3 years 10 weeks ago Page Bob Wallace
    Great use of dogs to help explain the human condition! I sometimes think STR should REQUIRE dog examples in every column, but that would be going too far. I disagree with you on incompetence vs evil, however: Bush, for instance, PLANNED to invade Iraq even before the 2000 elections. That's not incompetence; it's criminal behavior (invading another nation on false pretenses -- and after campaigining on "a humble foreign policy") including mass murder. If "evil" means anything -- I'm talking about the here-and-now world, not anything supernatural -- then I'd say that qualifies. As for ideologies and the tendency to see everything in black or white, them or us, completely true or not-true -- for the most part, I agree.
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    Glen Allport 3 years 10 weeks ago Page Michael Kleen
    I'm another Nietzsche fan, and I agree: he's sometimes hard to take. It helps a great deal to use one of the better translations; I'd recommend those by Walter Kaufmann. Kaufmann was both scholarly and, most important, adept at laying some of the music and poetry of Nietszche's writing into his translations. I'm making the assumption that the artistry IS in the German original; I don't speak the language but I can say that when I read most translations by anyone other than Kaufmann, I cringe. I used this quotation at the top of my very first column for STR in 2002 (Government is Not Compassion): "Indeed, a hellish artifice was invented there, a horse of death, clattering in the finery of divine honors. Indeed, a dying for many was invented there, which praises itself as life: verily, a great service to all preachers of death!" ~ Friedrich Nietzsche, "On the New Idol" in Thus Spoke Zarathustra, part 1, translation by Walter Kauffmann. The rest of this section is equally dramatic and clear. For instance: "State is the name of the coldest of all cold monsters. Coldly it tells lies too; and this lie crawls out of its mouth: 'I, the state, am the people.' That is a lie! It was creators who created peoples and hung a faith and a love over them: thus they served life." I'd recommend The Portable Nietzsche -- a Kindle version is available, thank goodness -- for a both a nice collection of his aphorisms (a Nietzsche specialty, as you surely know), longer sections (The Problem of Socrates in Twilight of the Idols is a favorite), and of course Zarathustra. 90% is annoying or overly-neurotic or local news and gossip or otherwise not interesting to me; the remaining 10% is often stellar and deep enough to make re-reading every few years a joy.
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    Paul 3 years 10 weeks ago Page Bob Wallace
    "When it comes to politics, the mass of people never learn, because the mass of people cannot think, only feel; they don’t follow principles, only leaders." This MAY be overstating things a bit. My impression is that most people don't follow leaders so much as hold their nose and pick the least offensive alternative (according to their values). And that they do generally follow principles, but inconsistently; and they are easily taken advantage of, by playing on their emotions, particularly on their fears. And I think people do usually learn over time. In other words I don't have quite the black and white view of the average Joe as you do. ;-)
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    Lawrence M. Ludlow 3 years 10 weeks ago Page Michael Kleen
    Hi, Michael: Thanks for your reply and for clarifying these changes. It helped a great deal. Apparently Nietzsche isn't like Plato (or Augustine for that matter) who changed for the worse as he got older -- becoming more and more statist. You've helped to clarify this a bit. I find Nietzsche to be a very challenging writer to understand -- very passionate and emotional with a vocabulary all its own at times, as so many of the Romantics were. Thanks again.
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    ElasahBazlith 3 years 10 weeks ago Web link Sharon Secor
    *-jugal- A person who behaves unacceptably by societal standards, and uses every possible environmental element to his advantage even if it is dishonest and cruel. It is a temporary arrangement made to fix up the problem. It is used in all industries to keep the production flowing while temporary arrangements are made .
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    tomcat 3 years 10 weeks ago Web link Michael Dunn
    The way the State of Israel was created is indeed nothing new in History.The Europeans did it during the 19th Century and all the Centuries before in Africa, America and Asia. One Justification for Colonisation was the Fact that the People who lived in these Parts of the World never had created States -at least not the Kind of States which the Europeans would have acknowledged as such- and thus all the Land belonged to those who were able to take it, if necessary by Force. - Might is Right- Of Course it didn' matter that the Natives had been first and might have lived there for Generations . Instead they got generous Offers of peaceful Coexistence:They could stay in their "Homelands" as long as they didnt get in the way of the new Masters; they also got the Offer to work as Servants or do other dirty lowpaid Work. Unfortunately in to many Cases the stupid Natives stubbornly clung to the Ilusion that the Land actually belonged to them and ungratefully rejected the Offers of peaceful Coexistence.So in the late 1940's colonial Langgrabbing was already out of Style.
  • Michael Kleen's picture
    Michael Kleen 3 years 10 weeks ago Page Michael Kleen
    Lawrence, as you've pointed out, Nietzsche was a complicated man and it is often difficult to determine exactly what he meant. It's even more difficult with his thoughts on the State because they are scattered throughout his writing. For a while, I thought he was being contradictory because in his earlier writing on the classical Greeks seemed to acknowledge a purpose for the State, while his later writing changed dramatically and he condemned everything about the State. He could have just changed his mind. But, I think he's talking about two different things - the State prior to the modernity and the State after modernity. Both of them are problematic, but the pre-modern State (he believed) at least had some redeeming qualities. Now, there's a question of whether he was advocating a return to this type of government. The answer is absolutely not. There are several passages where he explicitly says he doesn't "wish to return to any past periods." I think he was just describing things as he saw them. Does that make any sense?
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    tzo 3 years 10 weeks ago Web link Sharon Secor
    bam
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    rita 3 years 10 weeks ago Web link Sharon Secor
    The feds have no right to ban the possession, use or sale of ANY commodity, so as long as the "people" allow the proihibition of any drug, the people have no standing to complain about the feds overstepping their "rights." Medical marijuana is slave-talk. The only thing that prescription-only marijuana does is allow a certain few of us to ask the masters' permission to live our lives. Well, if you have to ask someone else's permission to live, what does that make you, if not a slave? And slaves have NO rights.
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    rita 3 years 10 weeks ago Web link Sharon Secor
    Okay, is there anyone out there who doesn't know that TSA agents are professional child molestors? (Boy, talk about turning a personality disorder into a career) Fly if you must, but for Christ's sake, protect your children -- leave them HOME.
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    rita 3 years 10 weeks ago Page Carrie Burdzinski
    There's a lesson, here, in these hypothetical scenarios where hypothetical parents, given opportunities to have actual conversations with their children, opt for alienation instead. THAT'S what the masters want; that's why they constantly urge parents to lie to their children about drugs, why they encourage kids to snitch on drug-using parents. Because alienated children make such good weapons. Nowhere is the evil of government more evident than in this blatant use of children as pawns, but you gotta ask, what kind of evil lurks in the hearts of parents who allow it to happen.
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    ElasahBazlith 3 years 10 weeks ago Web link Sharon Secor
    Look at it this way, T S A ... it is just telling you, (tea sah), Teaser. Let us just say that the whole story leads to the tormentor. It must be true for the minikin american, this is due to the lack of being fremescent. That is right, ------ go to The Friend. Enjoy the interminable sufferings. How jugal. Care to cherish the fester?
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    Lawrence M. Ludlow 3 years 10 weeks ago Page Michael Kleen
    Michael, thank you for providing this and your earlier writings on Nietzsche. I have always found him (like Sartre) difficult to read and full of contradictions and non sequiturs and flowery but unclear writing. As a result I have not read him extensively. After reading this essay and your earlier one, I have to ask you a question. It seems that Nietzsche has a kind of ambivalent attitude to the state. At times he seems to revile it, yet when it comes to the creation of the state (or its germ) as you described here, he seems to feel it a positive thing because it supports his bias toward the spirit of genius that cultivates the "arts" -- whatever they may be perceived to be at the time (either philosophy or the other artistic endeavors). In that sense, is he much different from those who support state coercion so that they can have their symphonies and operas? I find this question difficult to express, and I'm hoping you can clarify it a bit. Do you find these ambiguities in your readings of him? Thanks again for introducing this view on Nietzsche.
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    DennisLeeWilson 3 years 10 weeks ago
    Arizona Secession
    Web link Michael Dunn
    In an earlier version of this story (March 15, 2011) there were a few additional items, such as this one: "[People in Baja Arizona] actually want to stay in the union. It seems Arizona doesn't." I republished it here: http://tinyurl.com/3vlsf9f A libertarian gets split between the political wishes of the two "camps", neither "camp" is fully libertarian, but what one camp lacks, the other has. Perhaps we can split Arizona THREE ways. (Any "libertarian" split would HAVE to get my property away from the domain claimed by NINE Star 'Jeneral Joe' Arpaio!!) http://tinyurl.com/Jeneral-Joe
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    ctrev 3 years 10 weeks ago Web link Michael Dunn
    Of course, everyone including you, has a right to their opinion and a right to share it. I for one, do not look to Aljazeera for information which is the source of this article. States rights refers to political powers and in this regard any "state" has a "right" to exist. Time and again peaceful coexistence has been rejected, not on the part of Israel.
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    Michael Dunn 3 years 10 weeks ago
    Big Box Monsters
    Web link Michael Dunn
    You may be right, I guess I was focusing on areas where I agreed with him regarding a problem and hadn't disregarded his concerns because we have different solutions. The author makes the all to common error of conflating capitalism with corporatism, which certainly creates some gaping holes. However, all though he seems to be confused about capitalism and socialism and the false left- right paradigm, in the end he really is calling attention to the power of the consumer. So maybe he is a future voluntaryist.
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    Michael Dunn 3 years 10 weeks ago
    Life Sentence for Weed
    Web link Michael Dunn
    I can't believe I didn't realize my mistake actually, that's funny. It would have to be some killer weed to call it fauna.
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    John deLaubenfels 3 years 10 weeks ago
    Big Box Monsters
    Web link Michael Dunn
    Well Michael, I can understand why the article "resonates" with you if you're a small business owner. But the author, Dale Ahlquist, appears to be a raging socialist ("Capitalism creates holes; Socialism fills them"). He hardly seems like someone worthy to quote on STR.
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    rita 3 years 10 weeks ago Page Carrie Burdzinski
    And so the boy, resentful of his father's self-righteousness, rides his bike to the home of his latchkey buddy and spends the rest of the day without parental guidance. The girl, dissatisfied and still HUNGRY, waits until Mom is asleep and devours not only the cake but a huge bowl of ice cream as well. Mission accomplished.
  • Evan's picture
    Evan 3 years 10 weeks ago
    Life Sentence for Weed
    Web link Michael Dunn
    Ooops, double post. My apologies.
  • Evan's picture
    Evan 3 years 10 weeks ago
    Life Sentence for Weed
    Web link Michael Dunn
    Actually, I think fauna refers to animal life, whereas flora refers to plant life...
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    B.R. Merrick 3 years 10 weeks ago Page Carrie Burdzinski
    Terrific! "As with all government propaganda, fear, guilt, and authority are used in potent combination to influence and control children through the We Can! campaign." The government behaves this way because people still operate under the ideas of superior vs. inferior and "right" vs. "wrong." They also insist on having a government that looks, acts, and smells like them. This article reminds me of a thought I had while driving to work this morning: Government schools are like a bastardized, governmental version of a polygamous household. The principal is the father, the teachers are the mothers, and the children are forced to "do the dishes" endlessly. Why not discuss in front of other family members when one of the children has erred and is carrying around "too much body fat"? The thoughts so carefully delineated here reveal that government's desire to have its say in natural human relationships, and governmental efforts at recreating the naturally developed society it sees all around, are bound to fail. We Can't!, Michelle. We Really, Really Can't! I Can!, however. :)
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    Suverans2 3 years 10 weeks ago
    Zenigma
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    Greetings ElasahBazlith, You may find THIS helpful for your next "little silphology". ;)
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    Suverans2 3 years 10 weeks ago
    Zenigma
    Page tzo
    If we wash away all the extraneous babble, (of which there is much), the bottom line, as they say, is, "nothing teaches like experience".
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    ElasahBazlith 3 years 10 weeks ago
    Zenigma
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    modality The jussive mood and they claim necessity? To think it might just be a butterfly effect. A look in the mirror. How to start the day? Shall you remain outfaced by mirror? The pleochroic thought washed through your mind of granting plenitudinary power or destroying the tyrants and the effect it would have on present and future children. Snack time as one tyre. Ignorance is the curse of God. Knowledge the wing wherewith we fly to heaven. How is that for a fount? Become the factotum. Nor let thy conquests only be her orexis of prow. My little silphology, nothing teaches like experience.
  • tzo's picture
    tzo 3 years 10 weeks ago
    Zenigma
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    For anyone interested in digging deeper into Tao Te Ching: http://openlibrary.org/books/OL13510563M/Lao-Tze%27s_Tao-teh-king_Chines...
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    B.R. Merrick 3 years 10 weeks ago
    Understanding Rand
    Web link Don Stacy
    I like a lot of what Hunter Baker says here. Then there's this: "The underlying moral is that we must not make too great a claim to control the inventors and entrepreneurs lest we frustrate them into inactivity. Though we think we gain by taxing and regulating their efforts, there is a strong possibility that we will lose a great deal more by blocking the creative impulse and inspiring a parasitic ethic of entitlement." Phrases like "too great a claim to control" and "there is a strong possibility that we will lose" are understatements. It is the desire to "claim to control" that will turn the "strong possibility" into an eventual outcome, as I see it. Rand's biggest message is clearer and stronger than that: Leave me alone, and I'll leave you alone as well. This is what moves the world, no matter what some of her false premises might have been.
  • Suverans2's picture
    Suverans2 3 years 10 weeks ago
    Zenigma
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    This "student" missed the salient point of the lecture, IMO. "But in order to spread the ideas of freedom, you must first become a free person[sic]." "It is not enough to understand the definitions and theories relating to freedom—freedom must be lived and experienced—..." "One can consult a dictionary for their definitions, and one can read all about them in encyclopedias, but until they are experienced, they cannot be truly understood." "One cannot properly call himself a Voluntaryist if he only understands the concepts on an intellectual level." That, is the "first, minimal state of enlightenment".
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    Glen Allport 3 years 10 weeks ago
    Zenigma
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    Thanks for the tenbulls page; very nice. I have physical copies of the Gia Fu Feng & Jane English translation at home; bought them many years ago and re-read them every few years. I love English's gorgeous b/w photos and it seems strange now when I see the text without them. Also, most other translations (there must be hundreds, including one by SciFi author Ursula K. Le Guin [ http://www.amazon.com/Lao-Tzu-Ching-about-Power/dp/1590307445/ref=sr_1_3... ]) are very different and none grab me the way this one does.
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    jeffydiver 3 years 10 weeks ago Web link Derek Henson
    Yes, I agree that corporations making in excess of a billion dollars need to pay more taxes. Look at China, all businesses must pay taxes, and you can see how they are beefing up their infrastructure and technology. "Bang-em High !"
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    tzo 3 years 10 weeks ago
    Zenigma
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    Thanks, Glen, I appreciate the kind words. And I agree with you that all the minarchist people and ideas are invaluable as far as being part of the learning process. But if a person confuses minarchy with freedom, he may become stuck in that rut for a very long time—and in fact may never get out of it, as you pointed out. I believe the student was treating all the minarchist people and ideas as ends—confusing them with freedom itself—and this is what the master wanted to point out with his blunt statement. The student will now have in the back of his mind that the master has a different opinion of what freedom is, and so will ask himself—even as he admires Ron Paul speeches—why is this not good enough for the master? Having that seed planted, if he wants to make it grow, he can. Also, I have that same translation of the Tao Te Ching at home http://www.amazon.com/Ching-25th-Anniversary-English-Mandarin-Chinese/dp... and I always enjoy going through it every once in a while. One of my other favorite bits of Zen is the Ten Bulls http://www.iloveulove.com/spirituality/buddhist/tenbulls.htm