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    mhstahl 11 years 38 weeks ago
    Kermit v. Chick-fil-A
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    Yet, Sam, despite the apparent lack of human instinct, I'm often told that humans have an amorphous, yet universal, "nature". This "nature" is rhetorically used to explain wars, crime, government-and its supposed "need", economic forces, legal structure, alcoholism, flatulence, and possibly body odor; yet it is really nothing more than a conceptual placeholder for incomprehensible behavior. It is also a way of defraying blame for ugly acts-the species is at fault for war and violence, rather than individual actors. Perhaps, one day the mysticism will no longer be needed or wanted, rather like Zeus is no longer needed to explain lightening?
  • Samarami's picture
    Samarami 11 years 38 weeks ago
    Kermit v. Chick-fil-A
    Web link mhstahl
    As I see it, this whole "Chick-fil-A "controversy" falls under what Daily Bell has been calling "dominant social theme" -- but in this case I suspect the result is totally opposite of its intended purpose. Chick-fil-A will enjoy a marvelous expansion of business thanks to media coverage of all this falderal. I, for one, will bike out at least once for lunch; and if I like eating there (even tho it's hardly kosher) I'll patronize them often if they build closer to where I live. I would use the term "ultra covert dominant social theme" when it comes to the whole sexual "orientation" phenomenon -- the idea that a homosexual is no more responsible for his or her sexual "orientation" than I am for my skin color or my genetics (or my sex for that matter). So the white man must enact a bunch of his famous "laws" to make certain everyone within what he claims to be his jurisdiction accepts that ridiculous equality premise without question. As an educator I've watched The-Theory-Of-Evolution (and its equally bizarre "Creationism" counter thesis) used to legitimize agents claiming to be "state" supplant the family as the cogent governing unit. The sexual "orientation" meme has fit nicely (albeit clumsily for anybody with at least 1/3 of a brain) into that agenda. The idea: Your children are now OUR children. You can go back hundreds of years in history to see the development of government ("public" ha ha) schools designed to make that condition unassailable in the minds of the unwashed masses. "Free" education. Yip-eee! But the "theory" leaves out obvious questions: sexuality being a minor one. Human kind is to be portrayed as "the highest form of the animal kingdom". But the human being does not fit into the animal kingdom. The human newborn is unique among living beings in that it is entirely dependent upon adult supervision and care for a number of years. Therefore, human parentage is the only viable governing system. The human being is not born with what "science" has come to identify as "instinct". There are many attempts to attribute certain human reflexes to "instinct", but in the end only animals are shown to have instinct. All human knowledge has to come from learning -- some from education by others, some from empirical experience. Human sexuality also flies in the face of the "theory of evolution". I could go into detail. But other than the male being fitted with a penis and the female with a uterus, there is no direct comparison. And don't go to "public" educators for answers beyond HIV, sexually transmitted diseases, and pregnancy prevention -- they'll show you videos of doggies and horsies "doin' it", and claim to have given you a good sex education when all they've accomplished is the same as all other political action: obfuscation. But it's all for a good cause: to teach you to love your country and to understand that this is a nation of laws and not men. Email me and I'll sell you the Brooklyn Bridge. Sam
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    Suverans2 11 years 38 weeks ago Web link Serenity
    And, please allow me to introduce you to someone who evidently disagrees with this statement, "At that moment it becomes binding and freedoms are lost in the content." "Our legislators are not sufficiently apprized of the rightful limits of their power; that their true office is to declare and enforce only our natural rights . . . and to take none of them from us. No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another; and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him . . . and the idea is quite unfounded, that on entering into society we give up any natural right." ~ Thomas Jefferson in a letter to Francis Gilmer (c.1816) Thomas apparently believed that with a de jure government, lawful freedoms remain unabridged. This is so because lawful authority is "delegated" by the author(s), not "ceded[1]". To understand this better, let us take it to a smaller level. If a man, acting as SHERIFF, delegates some of his authority, (which authority, by the way was delegated to him by those choosing to pay for his services), to his DEPUTIES, has he "lost" any of his freedom to act as a SHERIFF? ______________________________________________________ [1] ...2. To relinquish and grant; as, to cede all claims to a disputed right... Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English
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    Suverans2 11 years 38 weeks ago Web link Serenity
    Nothing to forgive, Glock27. "As you are, I once was..." We push with statements, we lead with questions. That being true, here is my first question. You wrote: "When two or more people come together for for a united purpose there will be a formal or informal declaration on purpose. This declaration of purpose will result in some form of common agreement either understood, or written down. At that moment it becomes binding and freedoms are lost in the content." Even assuming that a "formal declaration" is "some form of common agreement", whom does it become "binding" on, the signatories[1], or their posterity? If you would prefer to discuss this privately, that is fine with me. ______________________________________________________ [1] signatory noun (plural) -ries a person who has signed a document such as a treaty or contract or an organization, state, etc, on whose behalf such a document has been signed
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    Glock27 11 years 38 weeks ago Web link mhstahl
    I certainly hope this does not happen because libertarians are not the only ones whom will be at risk here, matter of fact the whole nation will be at risk. I am thankful that the NRA has persisted over the past 20 years against the United Nations and the Arms Trade Treaty which is currently stalled out and will not be put before the nations to vote on. Hey!!!!!! for the NRA. ( I am a member) and I carry concealed. Browne says Direct action is difficult, but I am thankful for those who have choosen Direct Action rather than setting back on their fat butts and letting things happen. Freedom is not free.
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    Glock27 11 years 38 weeks ago Web link Serenity
    Forgive me gentelmen, but I believe this is nothing more than poppy cock I agree with the statement and also disagree with the statement. When two or more people come together for for a united purpose there will be a formal or informal declaration on purpose. This declaration of purpose will result in some form of common agreement either understood, or written down. At that moment it becomes binding and freedoms are lost in the content. Because like it or not you are bound to the document unless you perfer to be childish about it and take your toys home and not play, all of which you may not have a legal obligation to do. Now the Declaration of Independance was written a long time ago; and agreeably we could or should concede that it was or is a binding document on those individuals at that time and at the expiration of each individual of that agreement would at some point become null and void. Since it has not become null and void, but has become a tradition and cultural investment it seems to bind all generations to that contract--it has evolved into becoming an Axiom. Fir a hand full of people to attempt to divest this document seems to be futile as it persists in being engraved on the conscious of every American citizen. The same reasoning applies to the Constitution. Now, technically the Constitution should protect American Citizens. If it were given a true chance, rather than legislators doing everything possible to subvert and circumvent the Constitution it just might perform as it was written. The legislators, over time, have just gone from hateful to down right nasty when it comes to the Constitution. I am a nubie here and am still learning. So if you want to criticize my comments you are perfectly clear to do so, but at least do it with decency and respect. Hurting my feelings will achieve no end by violating the fundamental creed of libertarianism, anarchism and voluntarism. I believe the Constitution can perform perfectly. It is not the constitution that is the problem, it is the people who circumvent the Constitution, judges who force meaning out of it where it takes a queer style of logic to do so like the recent ruling on obama care. The Constitution was not designed as a Progressive Socialistic Marksest doctrine. I am more than happy to take a Personal Message of education, so if you feel so inclined to do so I would be delighted to hear from you and give serious considerations as to where you believe that i am wrong
  • Cannon's picture
    Cannon 11 years 38 weeks ago
    Kermit v. Chick-fil-A
    Web link mhstahl
    Henson, of course, has full rights to boycot doing business with Chick-fil-A for *ANY* reason, including the one given. And those who dislike Henson's policy have the right to boycot Henson. Unfortunate that rather than accept that this is how it is supposed to work in a free market, conservatives merely opt to whine about Henson's reasons. Chick-fil-A prefers not accepting gay people. Henson prefers not accepting people who dont accept gay people. So everyone should stop complaining about the other's reasons and vote with their wallet. Until then everyone is hypocritical.
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    Cannon 11 years 38 weeks ago Web link mhstahl
    Absolutely. If guns should be kept out of the hands of the "mentally ill", all that is needed is to redefine what is "mentally ill". Already in psychiatric circles there are attempts to make opposition to authority a "disorder". As a matter of fact, they call it "Oppositional Defiant Disorder". It only takes a few minor steps to categorize anti-statists under that moniker. And we've already seen that in government circles there was an attempt to classify libertarians as potential terrorists.
  • Suverans2's picture
    Suverans2 11 years 38 weeks ago Web link Serenity
    I have concluded that the safest and surest "Declaration of Independence/Formal Notice of Secession" is one loosely based on the formal notice of secession used by the original thirteen colonies, The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America[1]. I came to this conclusion because in order for the United States, (and it's subsidiary governments), to not "legally recognize" this formal notice of secession it would simultaneously be refusing to "legally recognize" its own formal notice of secession, which would be tantamount[2] to denying its own legal existence. ________________________________________________________________________________ [1] "The Declaration of Independence was and is, no more and no less, than a document justifying secession."~ Donald Livingston, PhD--Emory University [2] Equivalent in value, signification, or effect. ~ Webster's 1913 Dictionary "Silence is sometimes tantamount to consent." ~ Noah Webster (c.1828)
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    Suverans2 11 years 38 weeks ago Page tzo
    "Let not any be alarmed, therefore, at the promulgation of the foregoing doctrine. There are many changes yet to be passed through before it can begin to exercise much influence. Probably a long time will elapse before the right to ignore the state will be generally admitted, even in theory. It will be still longer before it receives legislative recognition. And even then there will be plenty of checks upon the premature exercise of it. A sharp experience will sufficiently instruct those who may too soon abandon legal protection. While, in the majority of men, there is such a love of tried arrangements and so great a dread of experiments that they will probably not act upon this right until long after it is safe to do so." ~ Excerpted from The Right to Ignore the State by Herbert Spencer
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    Suverans2 11 years 38 weeks ago Web link Serenity
    "But why wait for your STATE to secede?" ~ Excerpted from the YouTube I Hereby Secede by Roger Young "Your STATE", unless its sole function is to protect its members' natural rights, (amongst which are the rights to life, liberty and justly acquired property, together with the right to defend and protect them), is no better than it's franchisor, the corporation known as UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Since we all know that "your STATE" is not restricted to its one proper duty, one should not "wait" for it to secede, one should, IMO, secede from it coevally. "I...do solemnly publish and declare, this Man is, and of Right ought to be, Free and Independent, that he is Absolved from all Allegiance to the United States, and any and all States under the authority of the United States, and that all political connection between him and the aforementioned States, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as a Free and Independent Man, I have full Power to Arm and Protect Myself, my Loved Ones, and my justly acquired Possessions, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Trade, Possess Land, Travel Freely and to do all other Acts and Things which Free and Independent Men may of right do." ~ Excerpted from my Declaration of Independence/Notice of Secession
  • Samarami's picture
    Samarami 11 years 38 weeks ago Web link Serenity
    I hope nobody missed this video, embedded in the article. It's worth the few minutes to watch. Sam
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    Samarami 11 years 38 weeks ago
    The Gun In The Room
    Web link Robert Fredericks
    When I click the link I get some "lost liberty cafe" site not related to the topic. I'm presuming this refers to Stefan Molyneux's 2006 piece by the same name. In it, Stefan subtly refers to reification, except he uses the term "euphemisms". I think it's quite effective the way Stefan responds to a poster who was favoring "the government" by substituting the word "rape" wherever the poster used "government". "Terrocrat" is also an excellent substitution where one wishes to convey the real meaning and "...to ward off the continual oily drizzle of words and phrases designed to obscure the simple reality of state violence..." Sam
  • Paul's picture
    Paul 11 years 38 weeks ago Web link Westernerd
    This should be a surprise to no one. Laws don't exist for the ruling class and its minions.
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    Paul 11 years 38 weeks ago Web link Westernerd
    When everything is made illegal, then nothing is illegal.
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    Paul 11 years 38 weeks ago Web link strike
    One of my favorite Thoreau quotes.
  • GregL's picture
    GregL 11 years 38 weeks ago Web link strike
    This says so much in just a single sentence. Thoreau is such a pleasure to read and he's so timeless.
  • calinb's picture
    calinb 11 years 38 weeks ago
    Very Special People
    Page Jim Davies
    Would you be willing to ignore the title of Paul's essay and merely evaluate its content? Even if libertarians and anarchists are special, Paul's point is they would promote liberty more effectively if they didn't think of themselves as the enlightened elite. I don't see that you are disagreeing with the examples and implications of the behaviors that Paul cited. Your disagreement seems to stem from your interpretation of the title of Paul's essay. From his very first paragraph, "Libertarians (and anarchists) like to think of themselves as enlightened beings" Paul is not actually discussing whether or not liberty-minded people ARE special. Rather, he is discussing their actions, which are often unproductive and consistent with FEELING special.
  • Suverans2's picture
    Suverans2 11 years 38 weeks ago
    The Gun In The Room
    Web link Robert Fredericks
    "The first thing I want you to realize is that the primary tool or WEAPON terrocrats use to subjugate, control, and dominate their victims is WORDS. By "terrocrat" I mean "coercive political agent" or "terrorist bureaucrat." A terrocrat is always an individual human being. Please think about this issue. How often has a terrocrat stuck a gun in your face and said, "Pay your taxes or else?" Compare this to the number of times terrocrats have sent you pieces of paper with words on them, telling you what to do or what not to do -- and what penalties you may be subjected to, if you don't obey? … I don't care how much thought you have to put into this, but it's absolutely vital that you understand that the primary means terrocrats use to subjugate, control, and dominate their victims is words. " ~ Frederick Mann
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    Suverans2 11 years 38 weeks ago Web link strike
    G'day strike, You might like the "sermons" of Santos Bonacci even more.
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    Suverans2 11 years 38 weeks ago Web link Serenity
    Thank you, Serenity.
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    Serenity 11 years 38 weeks ago Web link Serenity
    In all honesty i have no idea as i don't have a google account either. You could try this page as it has the authors email address on it and email him directly. http://www.blogger.com/profile/15149639674145482725
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    Suverans2 11 years 38 weeks ago Web link Serenity
    G'day Serenity, How does one go about leaving a comment of the enlightened rogue's blog if one does not have, or want, a google account? Thank you.
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    Wani1 11 years 39 weeks ago Web link strike
    Outstanding! I just sent the link to about 25 friends, half of whom will surely & judgmentally reply that the guy is a "radical hippie". Greatly appreciate this find.
  • Suverans2's picture
    Suverans2 11 years 39 weeks ago
    Statist or Anarchist?
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    Anarchist means [one] without rulers, but it does not mean with rules, thus anarchists do not necessarily adhere to the non-aggression principle (N.A.P.). "The word [anarchist] got a boost into modernity from the French Revolution[1]", which included Maximilien Robespierre's and the Jacobins' "reign of terror', 'during which between 16,000 and 40,000 people were killed[2]". This is what tens, or hundreds, of millions of people visualize when the word "anarchy" or "anarchist" is used. As a result, this is the image most people picture in their minds when they hear/read the word anarchy. But we've had this discussion before, here at STR, and you, who call yourselves "anarchists", believe that you are going to change everyone's mental image of that word to a positive one. Good luck! __________________________________________________________________________________ [1] Online Etymology Dictionary [2] French Revolution, From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  • Glock27's picture
    Glock27 11 years 39 weeks ago Page Douglas Herman
    I have no idea what you just said, and I am not clearly convinced you even know. Wow. Could this smack of Trollism? Just askin.
  • Wani1's picture
    Wani1 11 years 39 weeks ago Page Glen Allport
    I would point to the Milgram experiment on obedience to authority figures. Even fairly recently, said experiment being repeated, results yielded 61-66% compliance, much as in the 1960s. I would also point to the Wikileaks videos we all shuddered to see, wherein our troops complied much the same, often with "extreme prejudice". As the widow of two veterans from the Korea/Vietnam era, I am well aware of military training practices, and how much is made of following orders. The general public doesn't know the half of it. But don't we hope to have a military that is strong, that will stand in the face of 'nightmares from hell' and perform much like the ancient Samurai, whose mindset was to "awaken each day as though already dead"? A man with such a mindset might seem impossible to defend against, given he has no fear of death any longer, but defends what he has chosen to defend. As for civilians in government 'offices', especially those who have spent millions to obtain said offices, can we imagine a more ignoble lot? In their cases, they owe their contributors, in varying degrees, according to the amount of 'contribution', and that grows daily via "soft money", Super-PACS, et al. If we are not amongst those contributors, what, in their minds, do they owe us? Nothing? As for the lower-ranking hirelings, to whom do they owe allegiance? Those who provided them their jobs & benefits, or we who merely hope they'll "do the right thing". We neglect to consider what THEIR "right thing" is...likely, it is not OUR concept of right. HOW did we arrive at this paradox? After over 50 years of diligent study, I haven't nailed that answer down yet. "Few men have virtue enough to withstand the highest bidder.~ GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter, Aug. 17, 1779
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    Wani1 11 years 39 weeks ago Web link mhstahl
    Having been born in the Blue Ridge mountains of NC, I learned, as did we all, by age six to fire a rifle, and by age 8 or so to fire it well. Our skills sustained life, we never went hungry, nor did we know fear, for we were never taught fear. Fear has been used for at least the past 60 years to reshape America into something I struggle to recognize. Had this killer used fire to destroy life, no one would have screamed for a ban on matches. Few fear matches. Because of fear, America has increasingly traded liberty for false security. As Franklin said, such deserve neither liberty nor security and shall have neither. The answer to gun bans IS 1776. NO fear. As for felons, they will obtain whatever they wish to obtain; all the more reason for a well-armed citizenry. I would point to Switzerland as example FOR mandatory gun ownership and training. My brother's friend made a statement that is quite telling: "In our desire to have government become our benefactor and sustainer, we have allowed it to become our taskmaster and overlord. As a result, we have become little more than well-fed, well-entertained slaves to the state. Freedom, as envisioned by our forefathers, is gone." ~ Chuck Baldwin Gone? Not completely. Not here.
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    Glock27 11 years 39 weeks ago Web link mhstahl
    I am estatic to see this as I am a second amendment freek (despite the fact that I should not have to be). I whole heartedly agree with this; with one exception, which no one here will like, and that is to continue the principle that fellons ,and mentally disturbed persons should not have the same access. I know! They should have the right also to defend themselves, but when your are being attacked by an armed felon you could possibly see the need to restrict, in a limited manner, who can possess a firearm; despite the fact that most felons already possess or know how to obtain a firearm without legal consent. I am going to catch hell for this, but it is the way I believe. And yes. On occassions, legally armed citizens have gone nuts also but dosen't common sense need to be played out in this arena? Just my thoughts. I don't think anyone can honestly justify why a convicted felon should have a right to carry a firearm.
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    Glock27 11 years 39 weeks ago Web link mhstahl
    Nice to know. Fun site to explore, especially for preppers and the coming storm.
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    Suverans2 11 years 39 weeks ago Web link mhstahl
    Definitely handy. Thanks.
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    Glock27 11 years 39 weeks ago Page Jim Davies
    Have the Spooner you are refering to, just haven't gotten around to reading it. I am currently ploding my way through Henry Browne's book "How I Found Freedom in an unfree world"
  • Suverans2's picture
    Suverans2 11 years 39 weeks ago Page Jim Davies
    Regardless of your answer to that question, you may find reading this "Classic by Lysander Spooner" enlightening. "What, then, is legislation? It is an assumption by one man, or body of men, of absolute, irresponsible dominion over all other men whom they call subject to their power. It is the assumption by one man, or body of men, of a right to subject all other men to their will and their service. It is the assumption by one man, or body of men, of a right to abolish outright all the natural rights, all the natural liberty of all other men; to make all other men their slaves; to arbitrarily dictate to all other men what they may, and may not, do; what they may, and may not, have; what they may, and may not, be." (Excerpted from the above mentioned treatise.)
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    KenK 11 years 39 weeks ago
    Home News
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    Great news! Now I'll be able to delete my bookmark for that truly awful website he currently writes for.
  • Suverans2's picture
    Suverans2 11 years 39 weeks ago Page Jim Davies
    Generally speaking, most (wo-)men who don't believe that there is such a thing as the natural law (of mankind), believe that only laws made by humans are "real". And, generally speaking, (wo-)men who are agents, or informants, of man-made governments, MUST "believe that only laws made by men are 'real'". "Man or woman using the screen name, Glock27, are you an agent, or informant, of any man-made government?" Allow me to ask that same question of myself, that you may know there is no maliciousness intended by that question. "Man or woman using the screen name, Suverans2, are you an agent, or informant, of any man-made government?" "No, absolutely, positively not!"
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    Suverans2 11 years 39 weeks ago Page Jim Davies
    "Did someone just make it up, or find it in a dream or the cards, or is it that a divine creator set it in motion?" ~ Glock27 Actually, it might be said that it was "found" using not much more than common sense. "Natural law is that body of rules which Man is able to discover by the use of his reason." ~ Hugo Grotius Perhaps reading Introduction to Natural Law, by Murray M. Rothbard, will help, Glock27. "The statement that there is an order of natural law, in short, leaves open the problem of whether or not God has created that order; and the assertion of the viability of man's reason to discover the natural order leaves open the question of whether or not that reason was given to man by God. The assertion of an order of natural laws discoverable by reason is, by itself, neither pro- nor anti-religious." (Excerpted from said treatise.)
  • Glock27's picture
    Glock27 11 years 39 weeks ago Page Scott Lazarowitz
    It really sounds as if we are really no different. I deeply empathize with you and your situation. You just can't seem to stamp out human stupidity. You may know this already, but many years back the Mayor of Washington went to prison on drug related charges, got out, camb back, ran for Mayor again and won. What's that tell you about human nature. Hope all goes well for you and you don't get caught up in a bloody mess. Respectfully Glock27U.S.A.
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    Glock27 11 years 39 weeks ago Page Scott Lazarowitz
    Scott. That was a firecracker piece, or cherry bomb of a piece loaded with historical and current event. It was an interesting read, but like most of the stuff I read here one point always seems to be missed, overlooked, forgotten or ignored. What is a real viable and operable solution? I have no disagreement with what you have said here. It's great but it fails to produce a solution. Freedom and Liberty at this point in time is a myth. I really like Samirami. He seems to have it boiled down for himself. How he does it I have no idea, but still, even he offers no wholistic solution either. The only solution I see is a collective effort to agendize A,B,C,D, and etc, but once you collectivize then you have screwed yourself into something you originally had no interest in becoming. Just an observation from an "unwashed mass member" not criticism, just looking for answers.
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    Glock27 11 years 39 weeks ago Page Jim Davies
    Where exactly did natural law come from? Did someone just make it up, or find it in a dream or the cards, or is it that a divine creator set it in motion? As I see it, the bible is a work of history, politics, culture and stories to get a point across fact or fiction seems to make no difference as the truth will always be the truth regardless of how it is twisted, so exactly where did natural law come from? Anyone got an answer? I would appreciate some different perspective if it is available.
  • Glock27's picture
    Glock27 11 years 39 weeks ago Page Jim Davies
    My solution is I don't fly anymore, so I guess anything off the U.S. continent is severely restricted, or prohibited, but given my age I don't believe I shall miss much. Alynski, in "Rules for Radicals" has a possible solution to most political problems, it's exactly what [p]resident [o]bama is using in conjunction with directions from George Sorous. Some how I believe Sorous really wants to be a part of bring the U.S. down since he has collapsed three other countries. Sorry about the gin, guess you should have had a sticky note somewhere lol.
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    Suverans2 11 years 39 weeks ago
    Natural Law
    Web link Serenity
    "The statement that there is an order of natural law, in short, leaves open the problem of whether or not God has created that order; and the assertion of the viability of man's reason to discover the natural order leaves open the question of whether or not that reason was given to man by God. The assertion of an order of natural laws discoverable by reason is, by itself, neither pro- nor anti-religious." ~ Introduction to Natural Law by Murray M. Rothbard
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    John deLaubenfels 11 years 39 weeks ago Page Jim Davies
    My condolences. I stopped flying as soon as they started restricting liquids in carry-on baggage. Ill be damned if I'll sit in a hot stuffy plane waiting for a stewardess to condescend to pass out a tiny cup of water. Also, the latest "security" procedures would, I think, cause me to lose my temper completely, which would subject me to charges that could lead to years in prison. Your bottle of gin is symbolic of liberty in America: gone without a trace at the hands of sanctimonious assholes.
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    rita 11 years 39 weeks ago Web link Don Stacy
    News flash -- the gateway myth of marijuana bit the dust a long, long time ago.
  • Suverans2's picture
    Suverans2 11 years 39 weeks ago Page Jim Davies
    If they did, Mark Davis, we would still be free to "rebut the presumption" that we are members, just as we are now.
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    Suverans2 11 years 39 weeks ago Page Jim Davies
    G'day Sam, A "sovereign state"? If you have a STATE's "...permits [and] licensing...", as you have just admitted, doesn't that mean you have "testified" that you are a citizen/subject of [a "(prep.) Denoting relation...belonging to, or connected with; as, men of Athens"] that STATE, and did you not have to use an IRS chattel number to obtain them? Requirements There are a few minimum requirements for becoming a licensed commercial driver in XXXX: You must be 18 years old or older. You will need to apply at an XXXX Department of Transportation driver's license site and supply documents proving your date of birth, your full name, and your Social Security number. Fill out the Certification for Commercial Driver's License form testifying that you are eligible for a CDL. If all the above is true, how is it that you are a "sovereign state", which is a state that is "not...subject to any other (or paramount) state in any respect"? Oh, and Sam, you ARE "free to run barefoot in the woods", just as you are free to choose whether or not to subject yourself to the dominion a STATE, which, in turn, is "controlled by a paramount government", itself.
  • tomcat's picture
    tomcat 11 years 39 weeks ago
    Lily-Pad Empire
    Web link Don Stacy
    "...For China and Russia in particular, ever more U.S. bases near their borders threaten to set off new cold wars..." For the Military-industrial complex this is not a threat, but the hope for a dream to come true. A Glazier walking around at night and throwing stones thru windows then going to bed and have a good sleep resting assured that the very next day his business will be booming.
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    Mark Davis 11 years 39 weeks ago Page Jim Davies
    All true Suverans2, but the fact remains that churches do not act that way (at least until they too become theocratic states). That is churches make no such claims, presumptions or threats.
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    Samarami 11 years 39 weeks ago Page Jim Davies
    OK, Suverans2, I think I get your picture -- and I suspect this ties in with Jim's thread questioning Tolstoy with anarchy. I am a sovereign state. That declaration is made sincerely, although facetiously at times to arouse the do-it-by-the-book types who seem to think one must make formal declarations of secession (in a state-prescribed manner) to in fact withdraw "citizenship" inflicted by the beast and become truly a sovereign individual. Anybody knows I avoid rules, protocol, policy, regulation, and terms defined by others. I manage to run a small truck business with its ancillary and aggravating permits, licensing, fuel tax reports, weight certifications, and endless inspections (all done by the girls in the office) that must be accomplished to satisfy the white man who claims to "own" and have authority over the highways and byways. And I don't plan to stop trucking just because said white man is a pernicious pain in the ass. Any more than I plan to stop walking in the woods because rattlers and ticks are pains in the ass. A doc in San Antonio once told me I'm now immune after surviving a grievous bite a long ways from help and the venom ran its course through me. But I still wear snake boots to the woods and look carefully before reaching. So in that sense you might accuse me of not being free -- I'm not free to run barefoot in the woods, and I have to take care of embedded ticks soon as possible. And the white man in all his vainglory will always be about -- for my own good, of course. Be free. This might be one of my last posts for quite a time. My internet connection severs today and I'm not replacing it on this old computer. If I buy a new one my kids will have to train me on how to get back online successfully. You've been my trainer on HTML, for which I thank you. Sam
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    Suverans2 11 years 39 weeks ago Page Jim Davies
    G'day Sam, Sorry to take so long answering, but I just now read your reply. You asked, "Are you advocating a specific act of "filing" using those buzzards' forms or formats? At one of their bureaucratic compounds?" Not just, no, Sam, but, HELL NO!!! Here is what I wrote, in context. The STATE may claim, (i.e. those calling themselves "the STATE"), may presume, that one is a citizen, but only until the presumption is rebutted – according to their own law. Stabit praesumptio donec probetur in contrarium. A presumption will stand good until the contrary is proved. Hob. 297. ~ Maxim of law from Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition (c.1991), page 1403 I was simply validating that even in their own law the presumption is destroyed when the contrary is proven. And, if the law provides no peaceful remedy, Sam, we are all wasting our time here; "pass the ammunition".
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    Suverans2 11 years 39 weeks ago Page Jim Davies
    G'day BHK, I agree with this, "...natural law...is a prescription for the individual to be truly joyful in any society, but thrive the most in a post-political one." The natural law (of the human world) is THE "cornerstone" for a "truly joyful...society". The cornerstone (or foundation stone) concept is derived from the first stone set in the construction of a masonry foundation, important since all other stones will be set in reference to this stone, thus determining the position of the entire structure. ~ WikiepediA