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    Glock27 5 years 23 weeks ago Web link Serenity
    I see little difference between the Jarawas and American citizens in relationship to freedom and liberty. Americans are being suppressed at every turne and corner. There are no freedoms only permissions which can be taken away at the whim of a dim witted legislature who has been seated far too long for his own good..
  • Paul's picture
    Paul 5 years 23 weeks ago
    Anarcho-Statists
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    I've been thinking of this too: http://strike-the-root.com/private-property-vs-your-stuff Rothbard's theory was that land becomes owned when a man mixes his labor in it. This rather dry description does not bring out the essence of the matter. If a man comes into some land via inheritance or by winning the lottery, and the very next day he loses it (e.g. eminent domain), he will relinquish it without a fuss: "Easy come, easy go." However the more he invests time and money into it, the harder he will fight to stay on. This is only natural; people won't easily walk away from something they have invested half their life into. The market will favor such people aquiring modest-sized plots of ground (absent government). Why? Because the larger it is, the harder to mix your labor with it. The harder to keep squatters off. The fewer neighbors you will have to help you defend your claims, and (since you are being a pig about grabbing land) the less likely they will be to do it. The land owners who manage to hold on to their land will have modest-sized plots so their connections to their neighbors will be more frequent and easier and more numerous, and so their "mixing of labor" will be more intense. Such people will be very hard to push off the land.
  • Serenity's picture
    Serenity 5 years 23 weeks ago Web link Serenity
    The hallmark of the state to treat people as property or animals. truly is sickening.
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    TheHomeEconomist 5 years 23 weeks ago Web link Serenity
    I was disgusted by this article. These people are treated like animals in a zoo, or perhaps museum artifacts, not living human beings! The degree to which you deny an individual his liberty is the degree to which you deny him his humanity!
  • Suverans2's picture
    Suverans2 5 years 23 weeks ago Web link Westernerd
    Notice to the PRINCIPAL or AGENT is Notice to the other.
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    Suverans2 5 years 23 weeks ago Web link Westernerd
    "No man can delegate, or give to another, any right of arbitrary dominion over a third person; for that would imply a right in the first person, not only to make the third person his slave, but also a right to dispose of him as a slave to still other persons. Any contract to do this is necessarily a criminal one, and therefore invalid. To call such a contract a "constitution" does not at all lessen its criminality, or add to its validity." ~ Lysander Spooner, excerpted from his letter to [CONGRESSMAN] Thomas F. Baynard This is why consent, either express, implied or tacit[1], is deemed necessary to derive "just powers[2]" [authority] over a man. Even a professor should be able to see that what Lysander stated is true. The other thing to consider, Glock27, is whether or not the U.S. Constitution has been successful at protecting our natural rights. "Our legislators are not sufficiently apprized of the rightful limits of their power; that their true office is to declare and enforce only our natural rights . . . and to take none of them from us. No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another; and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him . . . and the idea is quite unfounded, that on entering into society we give up any natural right." ~ Thomas Jefferson in a letter to Francis Gilmer (c.1816) Again, I use Lysander's common-sense-opinion, on that question, as my own. "But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it." ~ Lysander Spooner __________________________________________________________________ [1] In the cases of implied or tacit consent, the individual has but to rebut it to take the effect of it away. Rebut. In pleading and evidence, to defeat, refute, or take away the effect of something. When a plaintiff in an action produces evidence which raises a presumption of the defendant's liability, and the defendant adduces [presents, brings forward, offers, introduces] evidence which shows that the presumption is ill-founded, he is said to "rebut it." ~ Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition (c.1990), page 1267 [Bracketed information added] I DO NOT CONSENT TO BE A MEMBER OF YOUR POLITICAL CORPORATION AND I WAIVE ALL MEMBER-ONLY BENEFITS. [2] "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." I DO NOT CONSENT TO BE A MEMBER OF YOUR POLITICAL CORPORATION AND I WAIVE ALL MEMBER-ONLY BENEFITS.
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    deeperpolitics 5 years 23 weeks ago
    Dear Naomi...
    Page Paul Bonneau
    My own response consists of a compilation of material to put things into a completely different perspective. It is titled: Gun confiscation legislation, Staged shootings, Banking fraud, Economic collapse, and Martial law http://www.blissful-wisdom.com/gun-confiscation-legislation-staged-shoot...
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    Michael_Young 5 years 23 weeks ago Web link Guest
    It is necessary to think on this aspect and also the drivers are doing their business and thinking about every other alternative to save money. government-grant
  • Suverans2's picture
    Suverans2 5 years 23 weeks ago Web link Westernerd
    "State a moral case to a ploughman and a professor. The former [the ploughman] will decide it as well, and often better than the latter [a professor], because he has not been led astray by artificial rules." ~ Thomas Jefferson in a letter to Peter Carr (c.1788) Remember, Glock27: A CONSTITUTION. In American Law. [is] The written instrument agreed upon by the people [voluntary members] of the Union or of a particular state, as the absolute rule of action and decision for all departments and officers of the government in respect to all the points covered by it, which must control until it shall be changed by the authority which established it, and in opposition to which any act or ordinance of any such department or officer is null and void.” (Source: Cooley, Const. Lim. 3. ~ A Dictionary of Law [Black's 1st (c.1891)], page 259) As such, it is legitimate; but that's all that it is, and nothing more! It is not the “supreme law of the land”, it is the supreme law over those who wish to govern!! This is why those individuals wishing to govern, intentionally misinterpret it, illegally amend it, and unlawfully ignore it (when they can get away with it)...they hate the Constitution, (“its only a goddamned piece of paper”), because it has restricted their authority for so long; “any act or ordinance of any such department or officer...in opposition to [it]...is null and void”. They began chipping away at it almost from the moment of its creation. They have used, over and over and over and over again, the glaring error making “all treaties made or which shall be made under the authority of the United States...the supreme law of the land”; which explains why they threw everything but the kitchen sink at the so-called Bricker Amendment. “The Eisenhower Administration, and particularly the U.S. State Department, went all out to defeat the Amendment.” ~ Bricker Amendment by Justin Raimondo
  • Glock27's picture
    Glock27 5 years 23 weeks ago Web link Westernerd
    This Makes a great deal of sense. For over two-hundred years this Nation has operated under the ruse that the Constitution is in fact the "Law of the Land", the majority, although academically ignorant as I just presume it to be truth and therefore we "tacitly" conceed until someone comes along and begins to point out the errors which exist. Then there are those who simply plod through this life without question, probably much like our ancestors did until a few got tired of how they were being treated by the British Government at the time. I think these men and women wanted to be free of the oppression they were experiancing; it wasn't a military coue, or one man wanting to be Monarch (although John Adams seemed to desire this), they wanted to be free and constructed something they felt others also wanted (except for a few[a minority presumably]). I think these men were honestly looking to have a free society, but recognized that some order must needs to apply or there would be nothing but chaos and conflict. They unified the separate land masses claimed by such groups as the 13 colonies. From that point forward people must have "Tacitly agreed" to conduct ourselves under those guiding principles. My question now is "Does this extend legitimacy to the Constitution"? If it does, what needs to be fixed to make it operate in a proper manner as a guiding document? I have remained committed to the idea of "What can be done to alter the situation and improve upon it". What is the solution?
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    Glock27 5 years 23 weeks ago Web link Guest
    I disagree with the contextual idea that it was a sexy photo. She was a work of beautiful art so unique to women across the world. This was not sexy but sheer beauty looking at the lines, shades, pose, contrast, the sweeping lines that carry you off into a stream of warm, happy feelings.
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    Glock27 5 years 23 weeks ago Web link Westernerd
    Is it stolen money when a majority of the population votes in agreement with whatever the issue is being asked for? If legislators proclaim x number of dollars will come out of the pockets of the public is seems clear then that it is theft.
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    Glock27 5 years 23 weeks ago Page Jim Davies
    Compassion in a free society. Sometimes when I hear this I believe it is a dream, the Utopia many long for. I am not 100% convinced that enough people will honestly step forward, considering the radically, changing values of this Nation of people. Movie producers orient their wares toward corrupting the moral values of Americans, T.V. programing takes the same river of corrupting youth to adult in having strong values and virtue, corperations join the melee with sexually salacious advertisment and sponsor value corrupting programs. Given this peel of humanity it makes one wonder if a compassionate free society isnt being idealistic on such a concept. Please do not take me wrong; I believe what you have presented is a good and proper thought, but I am not convinced of its actual performable in this current state-of-affairs. I also know and understand that the United States Federal Government is corrupt, ignorant, stupid, idiotic, cognitively impaired, selfish, self-interested, self-aggrandizing bunch of misfits and cannot be trusted to perform anything beyond an "F" standard. When they get their stubby, greedy, sticky, dirty hands into anything it seems to always go to hell in a hand basket. This nation has experienced centuries of sexually depraved legislators, deviant, self-centered and what ever else can be attached to them. They have clearly demonstrated that they have no ability to operate a government for the good of the people they are suppose to be protecting. I simply do not have the faith in all of humanity to do the moral and virtuious thing. Their are a small hand full, but I don't believe there are enough to perform what is honestly needed in helping those whose misfortune was to be born with a defect or to become crippled in such a manner that their ability to care for themselves is gone. Yes, I believe every human being has a moral and ethical obligation to provide some level of assistance. Each person must, of their own volition, decide exactly how much and what they are wiling to contribute. My perspective is that everyone should be morally and ethically obligated to contribute to something. I believe George Sorous should contribute an equal amount to charity as he does to organizations that promote his ideology. (That's me). I have a son who is afflicted with inadequate social skills and some physical impairment. My wife and I are fortunate in that the Community Mental Health assists him in being able to live his own life away from home and he has a job (at Pizza Hut) paying minimum wage for the past 12 years with no raise, and he gets SSI benefits, (on his own he manages to roam about the city and fair grounds to collect returnable bottles and cans for additional income. Where he learned this level of responsibility I don't know, but annually he collects $300 to $500). Without the SSI benefits he would be at home (and unhappy) for we could never afford to pay what is necessary for him to have an independent life he is leading now. He would have to live with us. What is happenning with him is not a government or responsibility. But because the benefit is there I avail myself to it so he can live as free as he reasonably can. Jim. It is a wonderful idea which I deeply respect and wish could be a true fact, but given the Human Condition, I fear that it is not something that would happen even in a free society. Exactly how could such a concept enacted for there is a limited number of good hearted people to step up and provide the assistance needed, then there are so many causes how could we ever possibly address them all. When I look at Hollywood and see all the liberals giving piles of money to social progressive, facsist, communist ideologies when it could, to me, be better used in other ways. Exactly how much money does one person really need. Last year Joe Biden donated $5000 to some charity. Whoopie. I donate that much each year just to try and escape the taxes, and it never seems to be enough he. I am being financially raped by the IRS. My motive however, is more centered around avoiding the government from getting Imy money. I put my money where I where I believe it will do the most good, provide the most help. I wonder if I would continue to do the same if I did not have to pay taxes? You have a good heart Jim, and I accept what you say, and want to believe that a free society would be compassionate, but there are just too many examples out their to anecdotally say differently. If anyone can shed light upon my darkness I would love to hear (read) it to clear my negative position toward humanity.
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    wkmac 5 years 23 weeks ago Web link Westernerd
    Heroic!
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    Paul 5 years 23 weeks ago Page Paul Bonneau
    "We-ists", I like that! I have to admit I was surprised when I read about that interpretation of legal tender. It's not just Wikipedia either. However now that I think about it, it may be just like so many other things in government. The "law" or "constitution" may say one thing, but the reality may be something else entirely. It's a house of mirrors... The alternative platform already exists in several forms (despite some attacks like the 1MDC and e-gold fiasco). The problem is getting people to use it. But I'm guessing what will happen is that most people will go blithely along until the dollar crashes, and THEN start looking for alternatives. Oh, well...
  • Suverans2's picture
    Suverans2 5 years 23 weeks ago Web link Westernerd
    "Here’s the Fifth Amendment in pertinent part: “Nor shall any person … be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law.” Notice that the amendment does not say: “Nor shall any citizen … be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law.” It says person." ~ Jacob Hornberger Yes, it does say "person", Jacob. But notice, too, that it does not say: "Nor shall any man ... be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law.” It says person. person In law, man and person are not exactly-synonymous terms. Any human being is a man, whether he be a member of society or not, whatever may be the rank he holds, or whatever may be his age, sex, &c. A person is a man considered according to the rank he holds in society, with all the rights to which the place he holds entitles him, and the duties which it imposes. 1 Bouv. Inst. n. 137. ~ John Bouvier's 1856 A Law Dictionary This word "person" and its scope and bearing in the law, involving, as it does, legal fictions and also apparently natural beings, it is difficult to understand; but it is absolutely necessary to grasp, at whatever cost, a true and proper understanding of the word in all the phases of its proper use… The words persona and personae did not have the meaning in the Roman which attaches to homo, the individual, or a man in the English; it had peculiar references to artificial beings, and the condition or status of individuals… A person is here not a physical or individual person, but the status or condition with which he is invested… not an individual or physical person, but the status, condition or character borne by physical persons… The law of persons is the law of status or condition. A moment's reflection enables one to see that man and person cannot be synonymous, for there cannot be an artificial man, though there are artificial persons. Thus the conclusion is easily reached that the law itself often creates an entity or a being which is called a person; the law cannot create an artificial man, but it can and frequently does invest him with artificial attributes; this is his personality… that is to say, the man-person; and abstract persons, which are fiction and which have no existence except in law; that is to say, those which are purely legal conceptions or creations. ~ American Law and Procedure, Vol 13, page 137, 1910 "A person is here not a physical or individual person, but the status or condition with which he is invested…", that "status or condition" is citizen.
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    Suverans2 5 years 24 weeks ago Web link Westernerd
    TAC'IT, a. [L. tacitus, from taceo, to be silent, that is, to stop, or to close. See Tack.] Silent; implied, but not expressed. Tacit consent is consent by silence, or not interposing an objection. So we say, a tacit agreement or covenant of men to live under a particular government, when no objection or opposition is made... ~ Webster's 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language tacit adj. ...4. Law happening without contract but by operation of law ~ Webster's New World Dictionary of the American Language, Second College Edition (c.1980), page 1447 Unfortunately, we will spend hours bitching, to each other, that there is no such thing as "tacit consent", but not a single moment actually rebutting the presumption. Why? Because we don't really want to give up our citizenship status, we just want to complain about "the duties which it imposes".
  • Paul's picture
    Paul 5 years 24 weeks ago Web link Westernerd
    Only in fantasy land, does the Fifth Amendment protect anyone. Back here on Earth, the rulers do what they please.
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    Thunderbolt 5 years 24 weeks ago Page Jim Davies
    Good one, Jim. Our old enemy, the I.R.S., is indeed the root of all evil, as Frank Chodorov instructed. Putting everyone on a tight budget obviously changes the mindset of the givers.
  • Glock27's picture
    Glock27 5 years 24 weeks ago
    Newt's Letter
    Page Jim Davies
    Left a P.M. Sauverans2. I can only handly one thought exploding on me at a time. Remember. I am a neophite here. Error, Error! Grunts (slaves, surfs), obey. Interesting. I was never aware of that. Ha! How about that.
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    Suverans2 5 years 24 weeks ago
    Newt's Letter
    Page Jim Davies
    "Inasmuch as the Constitution was never signed, nor agreed to, by anybody, as a contract, and therefore never bound anybody..." I may have to disagree with that. CONSTITUTION. In American Law. The written instrument agreed upon by the people [by those who choose to be members] of the Union or of a particular state, as the absolute rule of action and decision for all departments and officers of the government in respect to all the points covered by it, which must control until it shall be changed by the authority which established it, and in opposition to which any act or ordinance of any such department or officer is null and void. Cooley, Const. Lim. 3. ~ A Dictionary of Law [Black's 1st (c.1891)], page 259 It is, at least believed, by the majority of individuals belonging to this political association, to be binding on those swearing to "support" it. I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God. The Military Oaths The Commissioning Oath "I, _____ , having been appointed an officer in the (Service) of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God." (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.) The Enlistment Oath "I, _____, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962). Note, however, that these individuals DO NOT swear to "obey" it, which is good, because virtually none of them ever have or ever do.
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    Suverans2 5 years 24 weeks ago
    Newt's Letter
    Page Jim Davies
    G'day Glock27, Gave you the following on July 31, 2012. "...you want to be bound by a Constitution that said something like this, "...ALL TREATIES MADE or WHICH SHALL BE MADE, under the authority of the United States, SHALL BE THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND... Supremacy clause [of your Constitution]. ...all treaties made under the authority of the United States shall be the “supreme law of the land” and shall enjoy legal superiority over any conflicting provisions of a State constitution or law." ~ Black’s Law Dictionary, Abridged Sixth Edition, page 1005 Look closely at Article VI.2 of your Constitution, then take a look at this article about the Bricker Amendment. Here is the the Bricker Amendment in its entirety, if you'd like to read it. Aside from that, I believe Lysander Spooner may have said it best. And, keep in mind, this essay, No Treason ,was written in 1869, ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY-THREE YEARS AGO; it has only gotten worse since then. "Inasmuch as the Constitution was never signed, nor agreed to, by anybody, as a contract, and therefore never bound anybody, and is now binding upon nobody; and is, moreover, such an one as no people can ever hereafter be expected to consent to, except as they may be forced to do so at the point of the bayonet, it is perhaps of no importance what its true legal meaning, as a contract, is. Nevertheless, the writer thinks it proper to say that, in his opinion, the Constitution is no such instrument as it has generally been assumed to be; but that by false interpretations, and naked usurpations, the government has been made in practice a very widely, and almost wholly, different thing from what the Constitution itself purports to authorize. He has heretofore written much, and could write much more, to prove that such is the truth. But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain — that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist."
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    Glock27 5 years 24 weeks ago
    Newt's Letter
    Page Jim Davies
    For years I have hammered at my federal and state legislators over issues which concern me and unfortunately I am addicted to do so up to this moment and Jim, you are absolutely, 100% accurate regarding the canned replys. At first you get this first blush of "A-h-h-h! I have done something. When you receive about the 30th response it clicks. They say the same thing about everything you write. Hayek is late, Surfdom is pretty much here already. I can't break the habit of writing to them, only my letters are not as polite as they once were, These letters I get little to no response from and I have to believe that my name appears on some subversive list, they probably know I have orderd books on how to make bombs, improvized explosives, resistance, sabatoge and a sundry of other texts formable for guerilla conflict. Little do they know I have these texts for 1) curiosity and 2) to assist myself in learning skills to use in the coming storm to assist in protecting my properties and life. The current progrom of the U.S. government is to enslave the populace. My greatest dispair is that the citizens have not awaken and when or if they do it will be too late. Right now the nation is captured by Patriotism. I am a patriot of the Constitution if and only if it is followed as prescribed. I have read it and pondered parts and try to study it. To me it seems to be a rather reasonable document to use and follow for a mass of people. There are parts which may be questionable, but I don't know what they are. I read some history, trying to get the best possible true renditions. Anyway. Great article. The problem with it is, if it were nationally publicized more than half the country or better would think "Kook", "Nut case". "radical". or some other deragatory term. I try to teach my grandkids that the U.S. government is an enemy to them, and that their legislatures will ignore them but they are too young to care. All they are interested in are friends and getting laid, having girlfriends. It is so sad. If anyone can share the bad parts of the Consstitution I would be very happy to hear. There is so much reading and so little time to accumulate the knowledge necessary.
  • Suverans2's picture
    Suverans2 5 years 24 weeks ago Page Paul Bonneau
    "Of 'Legal Tender' the COED [Concise Oxford English Dictionary (c.1934)] says (under "tender"): 'currency that cannot be refused in payment of debt.'" That is correct. However, so is this, "There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services.". "This statute [31 USC 5103] means that all United States money as identified above are a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether or not to accept cash unless there is a State law which says otherwise." (Source: http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/Currency/Pages/legal-tender...) This definition from A Law Dictionary, [Black's] Second Edition (c.1910), page 1143 will make the necessary distinction clearer. —Legal tender. That kind of coin, money, or circulating medium which the law compels a creditor to accept in payment of his debt, when tendered by the debtor in the right amount.— That statute [31 USC 5103] "compels [only] a creditor", it does not compel a "private business, a person or an organization...[to accept them] for payment for goods and/or services". So, Paul Bonneau, I believe you are free to create A Dual-Currency Community, if you want to...unless, of course, you are a voluntary member of a subsidiary STATE, that has a law which says otherwise.
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    Jim Davies 5 years 24 weeks ago Page Paul Bonneau
    This matter is settled by reference to the Oxford English Dictionary, the most authoritative source of the meaning of words and phrases in the English language. Mine is the 1934 Concise Edition, whose virtues even include a correct definition of inflation ("abnormal increase of the currency, eg by the issue of inconvertible legal-tender notes") in the nick of time before Keynes wrote his pernicious _General Theory_ and fully eight years after he put out his highly premature _The End of Laissez Faire_ - see http://rebirthofreason.com/Articles/Machan/Keynes_and_his_Ideology_of_Pl... Of "Legal Tender" the COED says (under "tender"): "currency that cannot be refused in payment of debt." So what the lie-fabricator at his desk in Mendacity Central (Treasury Division) did was to craft a particularly cunning one: it may be quite true that there's no statute to require acceptance of tendered pennies or $100 bills, or even, in so many words, "dollars" (ie, Federal Reserve Notes) in general; all it needs is the statute that declares those things to be "legal tender." The law compelling their acceptance (in some form) is then achieved by reference to outside sources which define the meaning of the term "legal tender." That statute is 31 USC 5103. Wikipedia, unfortunately, then picked up his lie and repeated it, and Paul reasonably relied on that normally reliable source. Anyone who knows how to correct Wikipedia entries now has a chance to get to work.
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    AtlasAikido 5 years 24 weeks ago Web link Serenity
    Hi Suverans2, thanks for highlighting the article (welcome back old friend)... Is America the World’s Largest Sponsor of Terrorism? Posted on August 6, 2012 by WashingtonsBlog American Officials Admit that the U.S. Is a Huge Sponsor of Terrorism The director of the National Security Agency under Ronald Reagan – *Lt. General William Odom* - noted: Because the United States itself has a *long record of supporting terrorists and using terrorist tactics, the slogans of today’s war on terrorism merely makes the United States look hypocritical to the rest of the world* [where does one's oath make any difference here? I'll get to that!]. Odom also said: By any measure the US has long used terrorism. **In ‘78-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism – in every version they produced, the lawyers said the US would be in violation**. (audio here). The Washington Post reported in 2010: The United States has long been an exporter of terrorism, according to a secret CIA analysis released Wednesday by the Web site WikiLeaks.... Read on dear reader: http://lewrockwell.com/spl4/us-largest-sponsor-of-terrorism.html And http://georgewashington2.blogspot.co.uk/2010/02/governments-have-admitte... carrying out false flag operations.... But more to the point: --"And, so, to the woman who says, "My husband [and or friend] is a good man!" and words [ OATHS to back that up] to that effect I must reluctantly answer, *"It does not matter." Other than DO NOT support or join the institution in the first place* [emphasis added]-- Joining the equivalent of the Crips (gang) in order to change it--via an OATH (amendments) AND CONSTITUTIONS--is INDEED (as evidenced by history) a hopeless/futile task... ---It's Not Personal; It's Institutional---Mises Daily: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 by Wendy McElroy http://mises.org/daily/5439/Its-Not-Personal-Its-Institutional "Thoreau wrote, Now, what are they? Men at all? or small movable forts and magazines, at the service of some unscrupulous man in power?… The mass of men serve the State thus, not as men mainly, but as machines, with their bodies.…In most cases there is no free exercise whatever of the judgment or of the moral sense; but they put themselves on a level with wood and earth and stones; and wooden men (sociopath behavior) can perhaps be manufactured that will serve the purpose as well... --*Many consider service to "their country" to be an automatic virtue*, but it is a dehumanizing vice whenever it involves the abandonment of conscience. The **military demands this abandonment**[emphasis added]. And few activities can be as dehumanizing as patrolling foreign streets in the role of an occupying force".... Grappling with the Banality of Evil Mises Daily: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 by Wendy McElroy http://mises.org/daily/5491/Grappling-with-the-Banality-of-Evil What if nobody turned up? [Many don't because of personal oaths]. However, too many do succumb to the Siren's Song [The priests and the soldiers] August 6, 2012 Robert Higgs on 'Warfare, Welfare, and the State' Posted by Lew Rockwell on August 6, 2012 06:14 PM http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/117408.html
  • Suverans2's picture
    Suverans2 5 years 24 weeks ago Web link Serenity
    Perhaps an oath similar to the one below is what every member of your government should be required to make. "I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Life, Liberty and Justly Acquired Property of the Citizens of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same..."
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    Suverans2 5 years 24 weeks ago Web link Serenity
    "Free individuals", are those not affiliated with, (connected to), any governments, as a result we do not "rely" on members of the U.S. military, period.
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    KenK 5 years 24 weeks ago Web link Serenity
    Heh. This story made my day. He's gonna go to jail any way so what the hell?
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    Suverans2 5 years 24 weeks ago
    Very Special People
    Page Jim Davies
    Speaking of "government...demise"... "All governments must have citizens in order to exist.   If one calls himself a citizen, then he is actively choosing to participate in the government organization. If one does not wish to participate, he can simply stop calling himself a citizen. There is no paperwork to fill out. One can just walk away, and fix the thought within his mind that he is no longer participating in the imaginary hierarchical organization that is called government, and just like that, he is out. It is, after all, his innate human right to rule over everything within the lower realm of imaginary creations.   Isn't it amazing just how powerful we are as sovereign human beings?" ~ Excerpted from A Theory of Natural Hierarchy and Government by tzo [Emphasis added] I DO NOT CONSENT AND WAIVE ALL MEMBER-ONLY BENEFITS. Que sentit commodum, sentire debet et onus. He who derives a benefit from a thing, ought to feel the disadvantages attending it. 2 Bouv. Inst. n. 1433.
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    Suverans2 5 years 24 weeks ago Web link mhstahl
    "A very simple reason, it's too profitable politically and economically to legalize it." Correct, Glock27. It is "illegal", but not "unlawful". "...the word "lawful" more clearly implies an ethical content than does "legal." The latter [legal] goes no further than to denote compliance, with positive, technical, or formal rules; while the former [lawful] usually imports a moral substance or ethical permissibility." ~ Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition (c.1990), page 885 [Bracketed information added] It is "illegal", but not "unlawful", because there is more profit in keeping it "illegal". "And Judah said unto his brethren, 'What profit is it...'" There is nothing "immoral" or "unethical", i.e. bad, or wrong, about growing, selling, or using the herb called marijuana, therefor it is not "unlawful". One, or more, of these acts , however, may be "illegal" according to the "positive", private law of certain corporations, corporations like the "United States", for example. 28 USC § 3002 - Definitions (15) "United States" means — (A) a Federal corporation... (Source: http://tinyurl.com/2u23xv [Emphasis added]) So, if one consents to being a member (citizen) of one of these corporations, and thus "subject" to their positive, private law, growing, selling and/or using marijuana may be "legally prohibited" for that "person[1]". I DO NOT CONSENT AND WAIVE ALL MEMBER-ONLY BENEFITS. _____________________________________________________________________ [1] A person is a man considered according to the rank he holds in society, with all the rights to which the place he holds entitles him, and the duties which it imposes. 1 Bouv. Inst. n. 137. ~ Bouvier's 1856 Law Dictionary "...and the duties which it imposes"; "...and the duties which it imposes"; "...and the duties which it imposes"
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    Jim Davies 5 years 24 weeks ago
    Very Special People
    Page Jim Davies
    Sorry, calinb, but no. I will not ignore the title of Paul's essay, for he put it there on purpose and a title serves the purpose of characterizing what follows - in this case, quite accurately. Paul asserted that libertarians are fault-ridden. He did so in his title, and he did so in the text. My article offered a counterpoint to both. Of course it's possible to find fault with libertarians, and in his article he finds quite a lot. But like it or not, the single hope for liberty does rest with us, and fallible though we are, my perspective is one of optimism and pride and excitement that we have such a priceless opportunity. He's right about one thing: the need to accentuate the positive, not just to pour scorn on the follies of statism. I have done that more than most, I think, by writing _A Vision of Liberty_ (see http://TakeLifeBack.com/trilib ) and other glimpses of what the coming free society will be like, but I also think it necessary to demolish the mythology by which our statist neighbors imagine that the present world is as good as it can get. Falsehood needs to be identified and torn down, before a true and rational structure can be erected in its place. A particularly disappointing phrase comes in "Nothing Special", on which I didn't comment above: Paul shares his view that "I don’t think there will ever be a libertarian paradise, or some kind of utopia. Humans don’t have it in them..." Possibly that was just a slip of Paul's keyboard, but if it means what it seems to say - that freedom is incompatible with human nature - it reveals a gross, breathtaking misunderstanding of Para One, Lesson One of what the freedom philosophy is all about. I hope you don't share it.
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    Glock27 5 years 24 weeks ago Web link mhstahl
    The war on Mary Jane or Doobie is not going to come to a conclusion. It will always be illegal, why? A very simple reason, it's too profitable politically and economically to legalize it. Christian organizations will be outraged and stampeed the effort, but what little good that will do since there is a sincere effort on the governments part to stamp out the christian religion because it has been such a thorn it its side for over 250 years. Due to the expensive blackmarket rate for the stuff, I choose to cultivate my own and even if I have to say so it was rather nice stuff and I even had some anecdotal responses from friends who agreed with me. I don't cultivate anymore because there is such a hard hitting drug enforcement in my area with aircraft fly overs and helocopters searching for even just one or two plants. The consequences if caught were simply too high. My wife would have been caught up in it even though she never knew and we would loose the house through confiscation. My state rolled over for the medical use of it and you can get a permit to raise no more than 12 plants a season. Hell. You have to raise more than that to assure you can get 12 good plants. The theme for this site is liberty and freedom. Just see how much liberty and freedom you have and go out an plant a dozen or so plants of Mary Jane and see what it gets you. Freedom and liberty is bullshit. Every last one of us are slaves or surfs to this tyranny. It is rather ironic I think. I can buy all the liquor I want and it's perfectly legal. The only reason I don't like it is because of the hang over the next day. Mary Jane dosen't treat you that way, or at least not in my experiannces. The only thing I hate about Mary Jane (I use Mary Jane because I can spell the other word) is that it contributes heavily to my heavyness No. The herb will never get released. The political usefulness of it is too strong of a motive for legislators to consider legalizing it. They are simply too stupid to recognize that they could make a boat load of money of taxes on it. A prime example of pure, unadultrated stupidity. I am buzzing now and am too lazy to go back and review what I have written so please forgive my random gramatical structure and crappy spelling.
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    mhstahl 5 years 24 weeks ago Web link mhstahl
    I would recommend "Gandhi An Autobiography: The Story of My Experiments With Truth" to you, I suspect that it might be illuminating. The power of words is quite astonishing. As is simply ignoring the beast.
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    Glock27 5 years 24 weeks ago Web link mhstahl
    This is only one of many points that convinces me that it is totally useless to chat about freedom and liberty. When people live under these conditions you cannot convince me that we are free. This merely proves that those whom are libertarian, anarchist, or voluntarist are and have become slaves to a governmental agency and a judicial branch, both of which are gradually evolving into a tyrannical group of sub-human aliens. Why it is so important for a government to need to subject its subjects to such a tyranny is beyoned my limited reasoning ability. It makes as much sense to me as a nut bag putting a puppy in a microwave and turning it on high. The ideas and philosophies presented on this site are Utopic and reflects the kind of society I would love to see evolve, but I fear it has only reach the chat phase and become nothing more. Action speaks louder than words, but what kind of action needs to be taken? I hear so much about non-aggression until you are aggressed upon. This group has been aggressed upon, maybe not individually, but collectively, the ideology each holds dearly has, is and will be continually aggressed upon by the feebel guberment, and kangaroo court. What are you willing to do to stop the aggression that is occuring because all this talk is not going to achieve anything. Can this delimmia be answered? I denegrate my humanity by writing to my legislators, unleashing the nicest kind or wrath over their idiotic actions, but I an a lone wolf baying at the full moon. Futile. My efforts fall on deaf ears and I know it, but I also know if thousands of voices were to speak up they would listen and maybe do the right thing. Look at what occurred with "Chick-fil-a". Respectfully Glock27
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    Glock27 5 years 24 weeks ago Web link Guest
    Because he is a decent, respectable man. Limiting ones view to one author severely limites ones broadest possible scope of getting a gestalte picture.
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    AtlasAikido 5 years 24 weeks ago Page Paul Bonneau
    Hmm...The “central bank” is not a real bank. Everything about it is permeated with government power. At the heart of the financial and monetary system of a nation that is supposed to be an exemplar of free markets is a *government money-bureau*. http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/central-banks-aren%E2%80%99t-banks/ Some context: "We Must Have Parallel Currencies"... http://lewrockwell.com/paul/paul817.html Makes sense, but not the collectivist "We" part; AND BITCOIN as Paul Bonneau points out ALREADY solves the above points (and more) by providing a Direct Alternative trading platform---*WITHOUT the need to get caught up convincing and/or waiting for We-ists to get The Following Message*. *A Message to the Voting Cattle* Posted by Travis Holte on August 1, 2012 07:57 AM http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/116939.html
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    willchpr 5 years 24 weeks ago Web link Guest
    I wonder why any serious libertarian wastes time talking about monetarist Milton Friedman when there has been such a brilliant, prolific writer and free market economist, Murray Rothbard
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    Mark Davis 5 years 24 weeks ago
    Anarcho-Statists
    Page tzo
    Good point and article. Sorting out legitimate land claims after thousands of years of conquest and subsequent, on-going transfers of "legal" land titles does seem an impossible task. This does not, however, change the fundamental problems associated with collective ownership. I also prefer the rational approach of trying to work out what individuals have legitimate claims on land than the irrational method of setting up collective ownership of all land.
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    Mark Davis 5 years 24 weeks ago
    Dear Naomi...
    Page Paul Bonneau
    "The answer is more decent, armed people in theaters so the rare Holmes can be taken out if need be, just as happened with other incipient massacres in the past." Exactly Paul. I just can't understand how gun control nuts don't see that if somebody else in that theater had been armed, then this tragedy would have ended differently. Ms. Wolf's diatribe listing how many people die and get hurt annually in gun related events (including accidents) was just stupid. If this nut had taken his car and run through a line of people waiting to get tickets or even crashing into the lobby killing dozens, do you think she would have gone into a diatribe listing how many people get killed and hurt by automobiles (way more than by guns including 50,000 deaths) annually? Or would be calling for car-control and lamenting the American cultural infatuation with cars? I agree Paul, Ms. Wolf can be so good challenging tyranny and then puts out this overly emotional, irrational screed. Thanks for calling her on it.
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    Jim Davies 5 years 24 weeks ago
    Dear Naomi...
    Page Paul Bonneau
    I don't vote, Paul, but this was a good one.
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    GregL 5 years 25 weeks ago
    Anarcho-Statists
    Page tzo
    I agree with you on the importance of a sound theory of real property. Walter Block has probably done more than anyone else that I have read about addressing some of the tough problems that arise related to real estate. I'm sure you're already aware of some of his articles in this area, but just in case, here is one example about water rights: http://mises.org/journals/scholar/waterprivate.pdf - Greg
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    Suverans2 5 years 25 weeks ago Web link Westernerd
    At last, someone has stated it correctly, "...the coercive power of the state violates rights...", instead of all the ridiculous, nonsensical and endless versions of "the state has a monopoly on violence" diatribes. And, this article can be summed up with this lovely little quote, reportedly from Benjamin Franklin. "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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    Suverans2 5 years 25 weeks ago
    Anarcho-Statists
    Page tzo
    "Extracting a rational theory from the complex issues that very quickly arise when digging into this question ["...as to how any individual can come to own or control land..."] is not easy..." You've got that right, tzo! Good to see you posting again.
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    Suverans2 5 years 25 weeks ago Page Paul Bonneau
    Some quotes you might want to remember. "The modern theory of the perpetuation of debt has drenched the earth with blood, and crushes its inhabitants under burdens ever accumulating. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks. . . will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. . . the issuing power should be taken from the banks, and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs." ~ Thomas Jefferson, 3rd President of the United States "History records that the money-changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent plans possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money, and its issuance." ~ James Madison, 4th President of the United States "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me, and causes me to tremble for the safety of our country. Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the republic is destroyed. The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency, and credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government, and the buying power of consumers. By the adoption of these principals, the taxpayers will be saving immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be master, and become the servant of humanity." ~ Abraham Lincoln, 16th president of the United States November 21, 1864 (letter to Col. William F. Elkins); about five months later on April 14th 1865, he was assassinated. "If Congress has the right under the Constitution to issue paper money, it was given them to use themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations." ~ Andrew Jackson, 7th president of the United States "Whosoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce... And when you realise that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate." ~ James Garfield, 20th president of the United States "The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astonishing piece of slight of hand ever invented. Banking was conceived in iniquity, and born in sin. Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again. Take this great power away from them, and all great fortunes like mine will disappear. And, they ought to disappear, for then this would be a better and happier world to live in. But if you want to continue to be the slaves of the bankers, and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let bankers continue to create money, and control credit." ~ Sir John Stamp (former governor of the Bank of England) United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993 Vol. 33, page H-1303 Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House: "Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. government."
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    Suverans2 5 years 25 weeks ago Page Paul Bonneau
    "Paul, your revelation that the US Treasury says nobody is compelled to accept government money in settlement of debts is surprising, to say the least." ~ Jim Davies First, evidence seems to indicate that Federal Reserve Notes are not "government money", but rather a "private corporation's money". A private corporation The first thing that must be understood is that the Federal Reserve Corporation is not a government agency, as most people think. It is a private corporation controlled by the Bankers, and therefore it is operated for the financial gain of the Bankers over the people, rather than for the good of the people. Excerpted from The corrupt Federal Reserve Corporation by Melvin Sickler Second, from the horse's ass, er-r-r-r mouth... "The pertinent portion of law that applies to your question is the Coinage Act of 1965, specifically Section 31 U.S.C. 5103, entitled "Legal tender," which states: "United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues." This statute means that all United States money as identified above are a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services." (Source: http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/Currency/Pages/legal-tender...)
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    Jim Davies 5 years 25 weeks ago Page Paul Bonneau
    Paul, your revelation that the US Treasury says nobody is compelled to accept government money in settlement of debts is surprising, to say the least. My understanding is that "legal tender" does indeed compel acceptance, not merely permit it. A quick look shows that Wikipedia's definition of the term seems to support your view. On the other hand some others contradict it: http://www.investorwords.com/2762/legal_tender.html "A country's currency that must be accepted as payment for a debt." http://www.thefreedictionary.com/legal+tender "Legally valid currency that may be offered in payment of a debt and that a creditor must accept." http://www.safehaven.com/article/14877/forgotten-anniversary-one-hundred... "Notice the underhanded change in the meaning as a result of the legal tender laws of 1909. A public convenience was replaced by public coercion. Two governments with the greatest war-making power in the world introduced coercion forcing their subjects to accept and use debt as money. This was a 'first' in history. In particular, the governments were forcing the military, as well as civil servants, to take paper promises as ultimate payment for services rendered." The last named points to a legal change made in 1909. More surfing required. A possible resolution may be that Treasury is answering a question about whether creditors are compelled to accept specific units of government money; for example is a vendor of small items compelled to accept a $100 bill, or is one of high-price items forced to accept payment in pennies. (A scene in the movie "The People vs Larry Flint" comes to mind; Flint paid a court-ordered penalty with a sack of $1 bills :-)) That would not imply that a creditor is presently free, as he should be, to specify that he will not accept government fiat money in any form at all.
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    Paul 5 years 25 weeks ago Page Paul Bonneau
    "The biggest question, it seems to me, in evaluating a system of redressing grievance is who has the ability to bring overwhelming force to the table-in this case, as in "red tape" justice, it is the Raj without question." Sorry, that's not so. I did not paint the picture correctly for you to understand. This really is backwater India. There are NO ROADS. There are merely footpaths from one village to the next. It takes days of walking just to get back there. Do you think the Raj was going to dispatch a squadron of helmeted goons because a couple with a marital dispute do not take Ramsay's advice? No. They were barely able to keep the railroads functioning at all, down in the lowlands (in another story in that book, Corbett works on the railroad for a time under insane conditions). Ramsay is respected in part because his solutions are sensible, in part because he is an authority. But authority does not have to derive from violence; Einstein was an authority in physics. So the Raj is mostly beside the point in this picture. I don't deny there may be better examples out there. This just happens to be one I'm familiar with because I am a big fan of Corbett's books.
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    Suverans2 5 years 25 weeks ago
    Natural Law
    Web link Serenity
    "The natural liberty of man is to be free from any superior power on Earth, and not to be under the will or legislative authority of man, but only to have the law of nature for his rule." ~ Samuel Adams
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    Glock27 5 years 25 weeks ago
    Kermit v. Chick-fil-A
    Web link mhstahl
    I am going to catch flack for this...but...I have no disparity towards a persons sexual preference. I have known in my past a number of homosexuals, male and female. They have been decent, respectful, law abiding individuals and not a party to the freak gays who passionately want to force their sexuallity upon others who have absolutely no interest or desire to affiliate. It is the freak homosexual that I disapprove of; those whom prance down the street half naked, suck faced and etc. just to spite the anglo saxon white middle class value structure. They do more harm to the law abiding, decent and respectful gay individual or individuals. I know a number of gay persons whom are embarassed over the actions of the current status of what is happening with Chic-fil-a. This is rather anecdotal because I have to presume there are some gays who find this sort of behavior amusing and may even support it which would countermand my anecdotal experiances with gay people. I have also had a few bad experiances with homosexuals which, in part, colors my perspective of gay persons but fundamentally I do not disparage the law abiding, decent, and respectful gay person. It is my understanding that Chic-fil-a will serve gay persons, and I understand Chic-fil-a has no problem in hiring a gay person. Its just that the freak gays are upset that chic-fil-a supports financially one man one woman marrage. GLAD has an agenda also. So. What's wrong with that? Those of us here have an agenda!? Everyone has an agenda of some kind--it's the news media that wants to propogate this level of hatred and I guess they are doing a good job of it. I will stand with Chic-fil-a, and if a store were in my area I would go to spite the Freak radical gay population. Screw the Mayor of Chicago and Boston who are banning chic-fil-a within their city limits. Is this right? For me, no, and I will personally boycott Chicigo and Boston as a protest against Big Brothers infringment upon anyones freedom. That's it.