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October 18, 2005

Given the Bum's Rush From the EIB Airwaves

In the world of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, et.al., there are only the good war supporters and the evil, left-wing war opponents.

Take, for example, this call from yesterday's Rush Limbaugh Show (reproduced in full here because it will be removed from the free side of the website later today):

CALLER: Hello, Rush. I just have one question for you.

RUSH: Yes, sir.

CALLER: Would you be willing to live under the constitution that they voted for Saturday in Iraq?

RUSH: John, the question is formed on a premise that is deeply flawed.

CALLER: And that is? What's my premise that's flawed, Rush?

RUSH: The flawed premise is that they're not electing a constitution for Americans to live under, and we are not forcing an American-style democracy on them. I thought when this all started that what everybody was upset about was that we were pushing an American-style democracy on a bunch of Arabs and Iranians or Iraqis and Islamic people, and that was unfair. Now they're coming up with their own constitution --

CALLER: So in fact -- okay, well, I'll get to the point of my question then is you think that that constitution represents something that you can call democracy?

RUSH: Uh, yes.

CALLER: All right, because I call it the opposite.

RUSH: Wait a second. Now, wait a second. See, you've got to be very careful with the words you use when you ask me a question, because what is democracy?

CALLER: What is democracy?

RUSH: Yeah, define it very simply, in the simplest terms you can.

CALLER: Mob rule. That's what democracy is, mob rule.

RUSH: No, majority rule, and it could lead to mob rule without any morality --

CALLER: I just happen to agree with George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin and James Madison on that. So if you want to disagree with us that's fine, Rush, but democracy is mob rule.

RUSH: Whoa, there you go now. Slow down. You're presuming I'm going to say and think things that you can't yet know. Now, what I would call happening in Iraq yesterday, at this stage of the game, yep, it's a democracy.

CALLER: Why, because they voted?

RUSH: Majority rule.

CALLER: Mob rule. That's what I said, Rush: "Mob rule."

RUSH: No, no, no. Majority rule. You get into mob rule later. The mob over there is the insurgency that didn't vote.

CALLER: No. The mob is the ones who vote themselves goodies of the public treasury. Mob rule, that's what we've got here, Rush. You can't recognize it?

RUSH: Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot we were talking about the United States mob rule. I thought you started out asking me if I would like to live under the Iraqi constitution, and now you want to talk about the mob rule of the Republicans in Washington. Sir, do not try to trick this host. We're too shifty; we're too smart, and we've heard from you. I know where you're going to go before you go there. I know what you're going to say before you say it. I know what's in your warped mind before you do. Let me just me just get to the nub of this with you, sir. Was that Ronnie Earle on the phone? Was his name Ronnie Earle? That was John in Austin, okay. All roads lead to Travis County. I thought it sounded like Ronnie Earle. I have a cochlear implant. I sometimes confuse voices. I thought it might have been Ronnie Earle. But he asked me this question and, of course, didn't let me answer it because they're afraid of the answer. Would you want to live under this constitution with Islamic rule and this and that, and my answer to that is, let me ask you people on the left a question. If this constitution is so bad and if this constitution establishes the kind of Islamic government that we have in Iraq or we see in Al-Qaeda or the Taliban, then tell me: why is it that Zarqawi and Zawahiri didn't vote for it? Tell me why they're trying to blow it up? If this Iraqi constitution establishes the kind of militant regime that they want, why are they trying to stop this? Why aren't they running for president and getting the votes of the people? You people on the left are intellectually embarrassing. You are beneath contempt at times. You just continue to amaze me. Your rage and your hatred has clouded your ability to be reasonable and to see things as they are -- and, I might add, to stay on track when you call this program. I mean, I can veer off with you whenever you go because as I say I know where you're going before you do, but you just don't sound good when you call here.

Now I can't say for certain whether or not the caller is a leftist, but he certainly didn't sound like one to me. If anything, he sounded like a libertarian or paleoconservative trying to make some reasonable points about the flaws of democracy and the Iraqi constitution. However, in Limbaugh Land there are no right-wing opponents of the Iraq misadventure. Therefore, the guy had to be a left-wing wacko who deserved abrupt banishment from Limbaugh Land in preparation for a longwinded speech about how great democracy in Iraq will be.

Posted by Mike Tennant at October 18, 2005 02:41 PM

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The whole point of Liberal Democracy is to have a state that is governed by electoral majorities but still protects individual rights, property rights, and establishes the rule of law. Each step toward becoming a better democracy is another step away from those three concepts of limited government.


Rush Limbaugh seems largely ignorant of early American history and political philosophy. Or so it seems to me by this transcript MT has provided here.


Posted by: Ali_Massoud [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 19, 2005 12:35 AM

Hey Limbaugh! Read this explantion from Ivan Eland at the Indepedent Institute, and definately no Leftist, either:
""Curiously, the United States has forgotten the wisdom of its own founders, who were more concerned with liberty than democracy. In fact, many of them regarded democracy as “mob rule.” They realized that a majority, through an election, could gain control of government power and impose tyranny on a minority. They wisely limited the jurisdiction of government, created competing branches to diffuse governmental power, and created a bill of rights so that government could not usurp the liberties of the minority. Unfortunately, over the course of U.S. history, the American public, media, and politicians have become enamored with democracy at the expense of liberty."
http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1587
This is what your caller was referring to when he said voting was mob rule. Excellence in broadcasting sure doesn't equal knowlege or thoughtfulness in broadcasting as well apparently.

Posted by: Ali_Massoud [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 19, 2005 09:14 AM

Also take note of how Limbaugh never answered the caller's original question, would Limbaugh ever want to live under the constitution voted on by the Iraqis? He just changed the topic to some blather about how "we" supposedly are not forcing "American-style democracy" and went on his tirade about how nimble he is at outwitting "leftist" callers, how he thought the caller was someone named Ronnie Earle, blahbitty-blahbitty-blah-blah-bloo, and never answered the question.

Being Rush Limbaugh means never having to give a clear and direct answer to a clear and direct question.

Posted by: BobKaercher [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 19, 2005 04:29 PM

Ronnie Earle is the guy prosecuting Tom DeLay. Yes, it's a political prosecution (but aren't they all?); and, yes, DeLay's being prosecuted under ridiculously convoluted, unjust campaign-finance laws. But we all know that Earle would be a hero to Rush if only he were prosecuting a Democrat.

Posted by: Mike Tennant [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 20, 2005 03:32 PM

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