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Interview With a Gulf War Vet by
Dahr Jamail Lately
we've been hearing quite a bit from the media about how our troops in Recently
I had the opportunity to interview a soldier who is a veteran of the
first Gulf War. While choosing to remain anonymous (for obvious
reasons), what I can share is that he left the states in August of 1990
for 13 months for an unknown destination in the Middle East. Some 28
hours later he arrived in an airport in In
talking with him about what it was like during Gulf War I, I was hoping
some more light could be shed on the current situation our troops are
facing on a daily basis in What
was your daily life like over there? As
far as food, it would depend on if the food drop was in the right place.
Whether the people in the supply unit got it to us in time. We were
always on the move, so there were several times when we wouldn't eat at
all. There was plenty of bottled water, but I was there for 13 months
and we only got to take three showers the entire time. Those were out of
a five gallon barrel that you tilted with a cord for your shower. When
that five gallon barrel was out, that was it. That was your shower, and
not very clean water at that. Anyway,
the entertainment, basically was mail. Of course, it would be backed up.
Many people weren't as fortunate as myself while I was over there, as
far as family members and loved ones writing. So I'd get 10-15 letters
at a time because it'd be so backed up. Other than that it was pretty
low key-you couldn't have music or light at night because we were on the
front lines. During the day we were always training, if we weren't in
combat. Did
you ever have any down time? Aside
from the three showers I told you about, we got shipped into tent city
three times, which was a bunch of tents set up for us with cots which we
got to sleep on, rather than in a hole. I did see that Air Force
personnel were set up in barracks and had a lot better living
conditions. I was Infantry though, so this was to be expected. We were
moving every three days, for safety purposes I guess. When
you were not in tent city, you were always "on" then? Yeah,
always. How
was morale while you were there? I
was fine, with the help of all the support I got through the mail. I
didn't like it, but I kept remembering I signed my name to do this, you
know, so this was part of it. There was a certain amount of fear, fear
of outcomes. Overall I think I was OK. There were good and bad days for
me personally. For other people, there were several drastic instances of
discontent. Even to the level of setting off Claymore Mines to show
enough emotional instability to get sent home. I was asked by a good
friend of mine, we'd been roommates, to break his leg for him so that he
could get home. He'd gotten a letter from his wife telling him that she
was leaving him. There was the strain of that, which caused bitterness
and discontent with some of the personnel. There
was one soldier who pulled a machete on his sergeant, but cut two of his
fingers completely off when he was pulling it out to use it. So then he
pulled an M-16 on the platoon sergeant out of sheer desire to get the
hell outta there and go home. We
didn't see the big picture. None of us did. We were not well informed,
so there was a lot of down time and a lot of discontent. Peoples' minds
going over and over and over the situation. There were several instances
of people being so discontent and wanting to go home so bad that they
would start fights and try to show some mental instability to get sent
home. Did
you have any contact with Iraqis? Yes.
We'd just crossed the In
watching the current war with Oh,
gosh. To be able to watch the war, that troubles me. Of course in the
first one, I was over there so I didn't see the stuff they are showing.
My biggest thing is that it's none of your business what goes on over
there. Having it being made public shouldn't be a priority when you're
on the ground over there. The fact that it's being made so public
troubles me. It
should not be entertainment value, to watch what's going on over there,
for these people sitting at home. And I think that's shared by anyone
who's been in any type of conflict like that and knows first hand the
conditions and the state of mind you're in when you're over there. It's
just disgusting, as far as I'm concerned, that it's portrayed how it is
in the media. Is
there anything in particular, that you want people to know about events
in That
they're not seeing the real thing. That they're only seeing what certain
people feel it's OK for them to see. I would have to say that it's
edited. I would have to say it is sporadic, and that what you're seeing
is not what is really going on over there. You're seeing what they feel
is 'safe' for you to see. That you're not seeing the huge factor of the
elements, and the number of showers, and you're not seeing their
uniforms sticking to them, and you're not seeing that nobody is getting
any sleep, and that when you do get sleep you're bouncing two feet off
the ground because the bombs are landing so close, or that you are being
fired at. I could go on and on. I could go on and on about how wrong it
is, and the fact that the politicians are saying that the "embedded"
journalists there with their bright blue vests on deserve the same
medals that the soldiers get over there. It just makes me want to puke.
What are the journalists salaries, versus the soldiers salaries? I think
it's disgusting. It's not good P.R. It's
real over there, it's as real as it gets and you're not seeing how
scared these guys are. You're not seeing their fear around every single
corner and the fear of what's ahead, period. I'm disgusted at the fact
that it's televised at all. What they show is not even remotely close to
what is really going on over there. It's not. When
you were there did you see any evidence of any weapons that would
present a threat to the No. What
part of I
don't know. We didn't ever know what we would be doing or where we were.
They didn't let us know at all. I was 19 years old, and I didn't know
what was going on. Did
you have any idea what we were being shown or told at home? I
had no idea. My family sent me a tape once, where they offered support,
and they told me they disagreed with what was being shown on television.
But I had no idea, and didn't even think about it because I was in the
midst of it. Now,
being on the other side and seeing it, I'm glad I didn't know when I was
there because I'm just disgusted with the whole thing. It's created a
lot of trouble with me. Mentally, I've had to go and get support from
Veteran's Services because there's nothing I can do about it yet I'm
filled with this rage. When
you go there for help, are there others there from the first Gulf War
for the same reason? Absolutely.
I've even had, throughout going, which I'm still attending, I've found
even When
you were over in Well,
I was 19 years old. At that time, sure, I believed in it, being ignorant
of the big picture. But I believed I was doing my part in the betterment
of something, and I thought it was good. But for the most part, I had
signed my name, you know? That's really as simple as it was. I'd signed
my name. And then it got really real, really fast, and at that point it
was just a matter of survival, it was just a matter of getting back
home. Did
you see any chemical weapons? One
time in particular, we'd been up 68 hours straight, and were in a
convoy. We walked right into this new zone, and you could see the
chemicals in the air. You could just see it. So of course we have to don
all our chemical gear. It was cold, and we were very unmotivated at that
point because it had been hours upon hours of nothing but traveling from
one place to another and it was exhausting. But you could see chemicals
falling down from the sky. It was amazing. Do
you know whose chemical weapons they were? No.
I can't say that for sure. Do
you know anyone who has Gulf War Syndrome? I
get disability. I've got a friend, who shortly after his child was born
without a spinal cord, found that the cause of that was his own bad
health. He ended up with bad lungs and is now dead. What
health effects have you experienced from the first Gulf War? Oh
goodness. While I was over there, a bunch of us got very sick. I mean,
very sick. We had stuff coming out of both ears at the same time, our
fevers were sky high, like around 107 degrees, and of course the heat
didn't help. What was contributing to it was that we were never getting
fed. This happened very often. While I was there my digestive system
became wrecked, and has never been the same. I still have not had, to
this day, a solid bowel movement. This is very strange. I've been
checked and checked and they say they find nothing there, no problem. I
get migraine headaches, which I get disability for. Every single day I
have some sort of pressure in my head. Some of these turn into migraines
which are so bad that all I can do is lay down and close my eyes in a
dark place and wait for it to subside. It's affected me by missing work
at times. It's affected me by missing class at times...enough to where
I'm irritated. I
had spots that were growing on me. Heck, they still are. They were in my
crotch area, in my thigh region, and they looked like black, almost like
little black mushrooms, and they would just get bigger. I have to go to
the doctor and get them lanced off. I was told they were not harmful,
but all of the sudden they were growing on me when I got back home from They
look awkward, they feel awkward, and it is just not natural. But
those are the three main things for me-the migraines, the black mushroom
growths, and the lack of a solid bowel movement. I can't even get
through an entire meal without having to haul ass to a restroom to this
day. Who
treats you for all this? Military
doctors, because I can't afford to go see anyone else. People
from the current conflict in I
don't doubt that at all. It's the same munitions, they are in many of
the same places, and they are using many of the same strategies over
there that we did. How
did the current attack on I
wasn't expecting any of this to come up in me, so I started watching all
of it on television, just like everyone else. My immediate feeling was
guilt, for sitting there watching this, and that was promptly followed
by rage. Anger to the point at which some journalists were getting
killed and I almost applauded because I just didn't feel like they
should be there and be 'embedded'. The soldiers have enough to do and
keep track of without worrying about a stupid journalist with a bright
blue vest on who is detrimental to the whole operation. I
was so filled with rage that I had to stop watching because it was
affecting my sleep, because it was affecting everything--my entire day.
I ended up talking to a social worker at the V.A. It just affected
everything negatively for me. And there was nothing I could do about it
all and that was probably the biggest factor that I've had to overcome. Is
there anything else you'd like to say to anyone who hasn't been there? If
you haven't been over there, and seen it, you don't know what it's like
at all. The fear, unless you've experienced it, you can't possibly know
it. It was a miserable existence for 13 months. The worst conditions,
the morale was horrible, and I just wanted to go through the motions and
get done. You don't know what the big picture is when you are over
there. You don't know what the strategy is. You're not involved in any
of that whatsoever, other than to grab it and go. While I was there, I
felt like, "I don't have much rank, but I'm still a human being who
is involved in this, at least let me know something. Please tell us
something, instead of keeping us going for 68 and 86 hours without even
telling us where we are going and for what reason or what to even expect
when we got there." We were just always in the dark, and expected
to put up with the conditions and to not worry about not taking a shower
and not worry about the meals not getting there because we had to go,
and they didn't know exactly where we're at so it'll be sometime
tomorrow before we can eat again. I
just think it's being glamorized a lot more than it should be. And the
only people the media is talking to are the higher-ups. The people who
know what is going on, who sleep on a cot, in a tent at night. They're
not asking the ones that sleep in a hole how things are going. How
do you feel about our troops being used as an occupying force? As
policemen and peacemakers? I
can't even stand the thought of that. I'm just as irritated about
Jessica Lynch who was a POW, who came back and said "I only joined
the military because I only wanted money for school." And now her
governor is paying for her tuition. I'm disgusted by that, because
ideally, I feel you should join the military to defend the freedom and
serve your country. It made me angry to see someone like her make light
of the reason for serving their country-doing it for college money. I
was there, and it sucked. I get disgusted when I see or hear anyone
belittle how difficult it is to serve time over there. I don't think I would have spoken with you about this before the current conflict. But things are so off from the reality of what it's really like over there, how the media portrays it, I changed my mind. |